I have, the convo is a continution of carey's war on starting positions. The regular users would know what he's referring to even though it's an "add on" in your eyes. The gates part I don't agree with either, however given it's free speech anyone has the right to criticise what they don't see as professional. PTT is the only form of racing media that allows you to voice freely, you're allowed to disagree however keeping on subject, and not personal, is the aim.
I have, the convo is a continution of carey's war on starting positions. The regular users would know what he's referring to even though it's an "add on" in your eyes. The gates part I don't agree with either, however given it's free speech anyone has the right to criticise what they don't see as professional. PTT is the only form of racing media that allows you to voice freely, you're allowed to disagree however keeping on subject, and not personal, is the aim.
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Seriously, I call him petty and that is personal. I don't give a fig that he tells me to PISS OFF, when challenged he is highly personal.
His opening statement is about the amateurish look , no mention of starting positions. He brings up times at the end and asks if we are interested.
He finds fault where reasonable people would acknowledge that they had a go at getting the meeting through.
The first race WAS run under normal circumstances, backed up by RWWA's site that times were hand timed from Race 2.
It is a backwater country meeting that had a go, he is looking to find fault and big note himself IMHO.
How are the distances out of interest today carey.
they looked ok, i think. not too sure about the 1400m, it's possible my template is wrong there, but it appears to be further forward, but the rest appeared fine. of course i have no idea on the race that was not shown because they were so late. that means no way of knowing how wrong the time is either in r8, and as the other 7(not 6!!!!) are wrong by hugely varying amounts it means it gets NTT for me.
and i should say, that suddenly the variation between actual and expected is narrowing at the outside meetings.. it's amazing what happens when churlish people, put pictures of wrongness on ptt
instead of the standard deviations being in the vicinity of 9 and 10 metres, suddenly they are becoming 4 and 5 metres and much more sensible.
The point Chris, is that the bloke is having a cheap shot at Gero for a barrier malfunction. This thread has nothing to do with the tape measure and micrometer starting position readings that are Carey's usual staple. Gero did nothing that any other race club in the country would not have. This is a discussion forum, and if you take pot shots at battlers to push your own agenda, you well deserve to be called out.
Of course he's allowed to voice his opinion. As should any others be allowed to challenge it. You were the one who asked for the conversation to be broken up. Why?
Challenging opinions are welcome too. I said ring the bell because it was going down the road of getting petty and personal when they obviously disagreed without any further fact.
Ok. So if challenging opinions is ok by Chris, I revert back to the title of this thread. If you, Carey , think that reverting to a manual start after a barrier malfunction is something that makes a race club worthy of ridicule on a public forum, you obviously have not one ounce of an idea about racing. In my eyes you are a dead set joke.
Believe.....Bull has a point.....no other club could or would have been able to do any more than Gero was able to achieve....barrier malfunctions are unforeseeable....the club done their utmost and actually should be congratulated for their effort. My opinion
ok, so my thread title may have been a little over the top, it does not alter the fact that the times are all wrong which is my main concern.
that aside, if nobody thought that looked farcical on sky channel the way the starts were effected then sorry, but that is exactly what it looked to me, and i said so.
and i am expressing my opinion which i will continue to do whenever i desire.
not to mention risa results, have all the races as ELECTRONIC timing, as provided to them by wa.
in the future, it's the form guides, and the supplied data that people will use, not the twitter, that most people will never see(although it is good that they do it, but it's not enough). and there wlll be no mention that they were hand timed, and there never is. although it may be different now they read this.
bull you disagree with me all you like, i don't care, and it's water off a ducks back. but maybe you need to look in the mirror. your nonsense about kirov boy in the perth cup was exactly that...nonsense. he rode it the same way he had always done this time in. i can remember having a chuckle thinking to self.....what an absurd criticism it was the same as normal, just a stronger field. he always makes a move around the field after being mid or back early what is the difference between that and this????
and to call me a protected species is nonsensical in the extreme. apart from tara, then i probably have had as many or more removed than most. you are being ridiculous, i have said something you don't like, so then you belittle what i do. by all means say that you think they have made the best of a farcical situation if that is what you want to do. but leave the other nonsense out, and that apples to the other person too.
Its a fact that Carey has saved me money because of wrong distances that then throw times out for the meeting.The bloke should be given a job to consult for them to keep it clean if they had any brains they would have done this long ago.Or at least asked the bloke what he does and learn from it because I can tell u he is correct on this issue each time.I have had people check for me and Carey has never been wrong once.The people in this forum that have a go at him should be thanking him because if u are a real punter the bloke is doing u a massive favour.So I pay credit were it due say thank u and be on my way.And trust me u have seen my posts I am a tough marker.
I think we should all wait and find out what the fault with the barriers was before going off half cocked if it was a lack of maintenance by the Gero turf club or a machinery fault that was unpredictable , but at least they got the meeting run which is the main thing.
Carey. My criticism with Dashers ride in the cup stems from the fact that when he got up outside the leader he sat up. They weren't going hard either. The first 4 at the 800 were the first 4 past the post. The run prior he let the horse stride and put a gap on the rest of the field. Surely your times would show you how much slower he ran the middle 800 of the race? It was a very different ride to the previous one.
watch the race. he was urging him on relentlessly, he can't jump off and carry him, past real love. it was real love in front, not some cat. pretty sure he wanted to go past real love & pike would not let it happen. it was your kick talking. he raced to the 600 faster than he had done before with one exception(the start before) if the actual times don't say that, then it just shows why people that take raw time in isolation, are not doing the work they should. he rode it the SAME
Carey. My criticism with Dashers ride in the cup stems from the fact that when he got up outside the leader he sat up. They weren't going hard either. The first 4 at the 800 were the first 4 past the post. The run prior he let the horse stride and put a gap on the rest of the field. Surely your times would show you how much slower he ran the middle 800 of the race? It was a very different ride to the previous one.
Two completely different class of race bull. You don't just stroll past real love and put 7 on it!
Pike after the race said something along the lines of - when he was challenged for the lead his horse wanted its head so he let her have it and maintained his posi at the front of the field
Pike after the race said something along the lines of - when he was challenged for the lead his horse wanted its head so he let her have it and maintained his posi at the front of the field
so what now after yesterday legless? rating 91 and beats 2 with low 70's and ooth. long time since one has won with this much over limit new rating is?????????????
oh and my new avatar shows more than yours!!! fluked that picture of them at it last week
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Seriously, I call him petty and that is personal. I don't give a fig that he tells me to PISS OFF, when challenged he is highly personal.
His opening statement is about the amateurish look , no mention of starting positions. He brings up times at the end and asks if we are interested.
He finds fault where reasonable people would acknowledge that they had a go at getting the meeting through.
The first race WAS run under normal circumstances, backed up by RWWA's site that times were hand timed from Race 2.
It is a backwater country meeting that had a go, he is looking to find fault and big note himself IMHO.
not too sure about the 1400m, it's possible my template is wrong there, but it appears to be further forward,
but the rest appeared fine.
of course i have no idea on the race that was not shown because they were so late.
that means no way of knowing how wrong the time is either in r8, and as the other 7(not 6!!!!) are wrong by hugely varying amounts it means it gets NTT for me.
it's amazing what happens when churlish people, put pictures of wrongness on ptt
instead of the standard deviations being in the vicinity of 9 and 10 metres, suddenly they are becoming 4 and 5 metres and much more sensible.
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that aside, if nobody thought that looked farcical on sky channel the way the starts were effected then sorry, but that is exactly what it looked to me, and i said so.
and i am expressing my opinion which i will continue to do whenever i desire.
not to mention risa results, have all the races as ELECTRONIC timing, as provided to them by wa.
http://www.risa.com.au/FreeFields/Results.aspx?Key=2015Jan10,WA,Geraldton
in the future, it's the form guides, and the supplied data that people will use, not the twitter, that most people will never see(although it is good that they do it, but it's not enough).
and there wlll be no mention that they were hand timed, and there never is.
although it may be different now they read this.
bull you disagree with me all you like, i don't care, and it's water off a ducks back.
but maybe you need to look in the mirror.
your nonsense about kirov boy in the perth cup was exactly that...nonsense.
he rode it the same way he had always done this time in.
i can remember having a chuckle thinking to self.....what an absurd criticism
it was the same as normal, just a stronger field. he always makes a move around the field after being mid or back early
what is the difference between that and this????
and to call me a protected species is nonsensical in the extreme.
apart from tara, then i probably have had as many or more removed than most.
you are being ridiculous, i have said something you don't like, so then you belittle what i do.
by all means say that you think they have made the best of a farcical situation if that is what you want to do.
but leave the other nonsense out, and that apples to the other person too.
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he was urging him on relentlessly, he can't jump off and carry him, past real love.
it was real love in front, not some cat.
pretty sure he wanted to go past real love & pike would not let it happen.
it was your kick talking.
he raced to the 600 faster than he had done before with one exception(the start before)
if the actual times don't say that, then it just shows why people that take raw time in isolation, are not doing the work they should.
he rode it the SAME
so what now after yesterday legless?
rating 91 and beats 2 with low 70's and ooth.
long time since one has won with this much over limit
new rating is?????????????
oh and my new avatar shows more than yours!!!
fluked that picture of them at it last week
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