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Stewards close net on new drugs

West Australian Racing
PerthTurfTalkPerthTurfTalk    3,054 posts
edited September 2012 West Australian Racing
Sydney Morning Herald:
STEWARDS are on high alert for the presence of synthetic erythropoietin, or EPO, in spring contenders after the Australian racing rules were amended on the eve of the carnival.

Concerns are rising in racing circles about the use of ITTP and AICAR, which are closely related to EPO. From next month, stewards will have the power to carry out retrospective tests on frozen samples.

''The rules were changed in the past couple of weeks, so that if ITTP or AICAR is found at stables, it will mean a disqualification,'' Racing NSW chief steward Ray Murrihy said. ''And it will be a long one.''

Murrihy said challenges existed when testing for EPO substances. There has been a test to establish for ITTP, while laboratories are close to establishing a threshold level for AICAR, which has been described as ''exercise in a pill''.

AICAR has been widely used in international cycling and in March Colombian doctor Alberto Beltran Nino was among 10 arrested in an investigation into the next-generation drug in Spain.

Murrihy told the Herald that there was information about its use in racing, particular in North American harness circles, and authorities had to move.


''We have been freezing samples for a number of months and can test them when we have the technology to measure the levels,'' he said. ''There have been a number of warnings about AICAR issued. The problem with it is that it is naturally occurring in the system, which made it hard to get baseline in humans but for horses it will be a different story. We are told that [the test] is not far away.''

Racing NSW stewards have been making spot stable checks in the past month, and all samples have been kept for further testing. It is believed Racing Victoria stewards are taking similar precautions, so the drugs will not be a blight on the spring carnival.

Murrihy said AICAR had been of concern to stewards around the world for some time. ''At the Asian Racing Conference in July we sat down and talked about it,'' Murrihy said. ''Racing NSW has spent $1 million getting ourselves in a position to keep samples, and we have been developing tests for drugs like AICAR.''

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  • RodentRodent    7,472 posts
    Ahhhh the stables that have a purple patch of form and then...................not much. Who will be the next stable to fall off the radar when they start testing for this?
  • ArloArlo    122 posts
    I look forward to the announcement from Stewards in WA informing us of the steps that they will be taking to ensure that WA will also commence freezing samples and doing retrospective testing!
    There can be absolutely no reason for WA not having the same integrity measures as other States.
  • TSSTSS    1,401 posts
    RWWA will blame the costs I've been told.

    If a horse gets a disqualification then the punters who back the 'new winner' should also get the winning dividends.
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    edited September 2012
    mate generally the owners - who are very easy to find - don't get an adjustment.. Do you really think they give a f..k about the punters?????
  • Rio I am having trouble finding in the PTT rules that ' Thou must comment on every thread '.
    A lot of your posts start with, I know little on this subject but ------- then a half page essay lol.
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    A burnt out, over opinionated, irrelevant, self centred piece of blubber that takes 500 words to say nothing!!!!!! Just argue with me....that's all I'm really after....the forum was so quiet for so long i wanted to make......oops, there i go again!!!!

    Am waiting for Diva/Chris to ban me for too many post that say nothing!!!!

    Pet hate incompetence..hence PR and RWWA get me going...!!!!! haha

    78 words this time...but still said nothing!!!!
  • Love it, well done lol
  • AquanitaAquanita    566 posts
    TSS and RIO surely you don't think the TABs and bookmakers Australia wide should be required to pay out on the subsequent winner after a horse is disqualified for a positive swab. They have already paid out on correct weight on the horse that was disqualified and have no recourse to recover these payments.

    Local Rule of Racing 173 requires the stake money to be paid to the elevated runners.

    Then again facts should not get in the way of emotive comments
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    edited September 2012

    If they did i'd never post again...so maybe they should!!!!!!

    Your right of course - which is always the best way to take the emotion out of the argument...but i was sort of making the point in relation to stakes money....And i'm sure TSS was making the point of how frustrating it is that a horse gets proven to be cheating and it is the punter who ulimately pays for it...not fair..and nothing you can do to change it..

    And we all know there is no place for facts in a good whinge!!!!

     

    Oh....and try harder, that was a pathetic attempt to try and argue with me..use a bit more emotion and a lot less common sense!!!!!

  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    you're under attack lately rio!

    perhaps you could ask aquanita if he could guess how many people LEGITIMATELY backed donneytime at kal and had to wear just getting their money back.

    or how many trillions the tab has stolen off their customers through breakage.

    or....or...or......

    of course when you're a mouthpiece for the establishment........
  • AquanitaAquanita    566 posts
    Glad to see you are still going strong Carey, don't know where the WA racing industry would be without your insightful oversight.
  • AquanitaAquanita    566 posts
    By the way Carey I totally agree that the events of the Kalgoorle race were unacceptable and there should be transparency and accountability I am also sure that those punters that unknowingly backed unplaced horses after the race had been run were relieved to get a refund

    Although I do not see how this matter relates to the issues raised by TSS and RIO
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts

    Very similar situation..a wrong was done and the owners and punters have to wear it..and the service provider just sits on it hands...shrugs its shoulders and says....ummmmmmmmmm there's not much we can do about it, how about we say sorry will that help?????

    After several months of testing i accept that it is beyond RWWA/TAB control to do much about it, but the Kal one was a shocker..and so easy to resolve...a phone call to head office "we've lost power at the track..cut off the betting pools until we have it sorted"...but no - lets keep taking bets and see if we can get a fortune for no return..

    I will wait and read the report from the RWWA/TAB about what percentage of lost bets - and their dollar value - were actually refunded from that debacle...transperancy my arse...they(RWWA/TAB) have never been interested in doing that so why change now!!

  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I think you'll find it would have been easier to hold the race until power was restored. Im told it was only about 3-4 minutes of lost power. We've held races for a lot longer than that in the West (ie Winterbottom)
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts

    Probably what RWWA thought would happen, but no one checked with KBRC to make sure it would go that way..But unless an enquiry is held...a proper one..nothing will be done to identify the problem and put into place good process to ensure the saem problem doesn't happen again..

    The will to improve just isn't with the administrators of this $600m/yr in WA industry!!! To scared to admit they made a mistake.

    Your suggestion Diva is laced with copious amounts of common sense...so that was never going to happen!!

  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    I personally like RIO's comments but do take offence at his overuse of the exclamation point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    Radman said:

    I personally like RIO's comments but do take offence at his overuse of the exclamation point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WTF?!?!?!?!?!?! there are variations too......like full stops instead of commas.....will try to use more emoticons Rad,my little Katoi :> :-h ;) =P~
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