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West Australian Racing
[DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
edited March 2013 West Australian Racing
First of all today we had troy turner on moonsearch what was that talk about do everything u can to lose on it.Then we had modello lets just sit 3 wide and burn all of us again dumb go back to riding school.Then what was that on flashy doll I just sit 3 wide and then take off on the bend what was that.U have to be blind not to see how bad some of these rides are they don't get any worse just given no hope we have had 5 races and I have seen 3 really bad ones today.Its time to start giving these blokes a rocket its just not good enough in 8 horse fields to boot shows no race sense or any clue what they are doing.Nothing but first class dills If I was owner I say I pay u what the ride was worth and that would be I bill u for the ride it was that bad.
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  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    My Saturday is now complete.

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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    Hhaha see radman I like u to point out were I am wrong that's the thing about wa u all think I complaining and maybe I am but u show me were I am wrong about some of these rides.Just keep laughing u all be riding for peanuts one day cause all the big players will just say bye bye had enough of these halfwits.

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  • rickrick    487 posts
    what would you like mailman a nose or jaw
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  • DevilwearspradaDevilwearsprada    139 posts
    also i dont understand how some horses form can drop off so badly from one week to the other and in such small fields !
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  • rickrick    487 posts
    Devilwearsprada said:

    also i dont understand how some horses form can drop off so badly from one week to the other and in such small fields !

    because they are not machines mate they have there bad days too
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  • fifodynamofifodynamo    243 posts
    haters be a hatin , just stick to the east coast as you quote , how did you go today by the way
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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    I agree mate the racing in wa is getting worse week by week have alook at modello how bad did it go was off the map great win last start and cant go a yard today.U see I am writing that because then someone will come on and say it sat wide.Then I can say but hang on u guys just bagged me because I say half these riders cant ride. lol so u draw them out one way or the other it is funny at times but.
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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    So u think some of that riding today and week in week out is ok fifodynamo would I be correct in saying that and for the record its not hating pointing out how ave it is u do relise u have poor onwers paying for some of this do u think that's just ok to jam them to do u.By your comments u must.
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  • rasputinrasputin    5 posts
    Yea I agree, jockeys need to go back to school. except maybe Kyra Yuill. I remember Darren Gauci when he was an apprentice, he just won.....rasputin

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  • fifodynamofifodynamo    243 posts
    yes,, not an issue here mate as you must take into account that you have a human ontop of a 500kg beast and all must gel together , I never hear you bag shit out of eastern states hoops just the same old lets hang shit on WA , maybe next weekend you could point out where all the eastern states hoops went wrong an killed it for the punters would be a great thread , by the way Onya Shooter in the 7th

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  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Why not get rid of the jockeys all together and just get some drunk yobbos to chase the field in an old HQ Holden?

    Cmon people, That's not the worst idea I've ever heard.

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  • fifodynamofifodynamo    243 posts
    would love to stay and chat but Neil Young and Crazy Horse are calling

    all the best fellas
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  • DevilwearspradaDevilwearsprada    139 posts
    i look at it like a pie graph, reason i lose.
    25% bad form research
    25% bad ride from jockey
    50% horse doesnt bring his A-game.

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  • Thoroly_BreadThoroly_Bread    2,348 posts
    Kalahaar was the worst why SMC didnt just keep to the fence and try push through.... that was the beginning of the end for me i knew it was going to be a bad day from then on in and it was... back to work Monday for me....
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  • Raff_2000Raff_2000    802 posts
    edited March 2013
    Thoroly_Bread said:

    Kalahaar was the worst why SMC didnt just keep to the fence and try push through.... that was the beginning of the end for me i knew it was going to be a bad day from then on in and it was... back to work Monday for me....

    I have seen the last 600m replay for this race and I can't see what more Shooter could have done in terms of getting a run on the fence. Craig Staples held his line with Dino Mak in the straight and Shooter went looking for a needle eye opening that didn't present itself and as a result he got checked off the heels of Dino Mak. I just can't see how Kalahaar could have possibly found a way through without handing his jockey a careless riding charge.

    I hope you have more success with your tips next time TB.
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  • raconteurraconteur    610 posts
    Mailman - Modello beat a non metro winning / weak Albany winner in a 68+ at Bunbury - and just because someone (not the owners) had plenty on today - you think it was terrible.- that's why the boy claims.
    Rasputin - you jest ? " except K Yuill" ??? - I suppose you are right - she is too far gone for any school to do her any good - she gets about 1 in every 25 rides right.
    Thoroly_Bread - what?? what did you want Shooter to do climb over Dino mak ? - he reefed it pretty quick when figuring that there was no real gap inside.

    &
    I agree with Devilwearsprada Pie Chart, but would apportion a small pie section to Bad Luck !

    loser pie chart.JPG
    458 x 324 - 17K

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  • DevilwearspradaDevilwearsprada    139 posts
    haha nice pie chart.
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Mailman said:

    First of all today we had troy turner on moonsearch what was that talk about do everything u can to lose on it.Then we had modello lets just sit 3 wide and burn all of us again dumb go back to riding school.Then what was that on flashy doll I just sit 3 wide and then take off on the bend what was that.U have to be blind not to see how bad some of these rides are they don't get any worse just given no hope we have had 5 races and I have seen 3 really bad ones today.Its time to start giving these blokes a rocket its just not good enough in 8 horse fields to boot shows no race sense or any clue what they are doing.Nothing but first class dills If I was owner I say I pay u what the ride was worth and that would be I bill u for the ride it was that bad.


    Are you fair dinkum or just to much time on the end of the Bong ,why say this is it im out !!!
    Then the very next weej you come back on bitching like you never left ,time to get a grip Mailman

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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    rasputin said:

    Yea I agree, jockeys need to go back to school. except maybe Kyra Yuill. I remember Darren Gauci when he was an apprentice, he just won.....rasputin

    Thats one of the funniest things ive read ,except Kyra Yuill ,she should have never left jockey school !!!
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    edited March 2013
    yuill has stats better than other riders, more times than others have better than her, whichever way the analysis is done.
    a fair bit better actually.
    it's why most punters lose, they never lets the facts get in the way of their biases
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    :-SS
    Carey she has had 2 winners from her last 50 rides and her rides to winners is
    5 metro from 61
    16 bush from 213
    thats 21 from 274
    explain how that is better stats than most ???
    Explain ??
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Carey KY is going at 8%
    Ponty at 25% 58 winners from 229
    Pike at 16% 64 winners from 399
    Just to clear that up
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Mailman said:

    First of all today we had troy turner on moonsearch what was that talk about do everything u can to lose on it.Then we had modello lets just sit 3 wide and burn all of us again dumb go back to riding school.Then what was that on flashy doll I just sit 3 wide and then take off on the bend what was that.U have to be blind not to see how bad some of these rides are they don't get any worse just given no hope we have had 5 races and I have seen 3 really bad ones today.Its time to start giving these blokes a rocket its just not good enough in 8 horse fields to boot shows no race sense or any clue what they are doing.Nothing but first class dills If I was owner I say I pay u what the ride was worth and that would be I bill u for the ride it was that bad.


    Mailman you have to deluded mate ,i agree TT ride on the 1st winner was just a ride but it WON !!!

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  • goosegoose    1,638 posts
    But Dungy hard to compare stats with Harvey and Pike because most times they are on the better horses.
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    goose said:

    But Dungy hard to compare stats with Harvey and Pike because most times they are on the better horses.

    I understand that Goose but stats dont lie mate
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  • goosegoose    1,638 posts
    Why doesnt Chui get more rides doesnt make many mistakes yet 1 ride yesterday and down for only 2 today at Bunbury cant work that out?
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  • IntoItIntoIt    659 posts
    For a senior jock, Lucas, why, when then the trainer asks to have the horse back in the field, after missing the kick, you rode it forward to lead? Strange! Justine must have been tearing her hair out! Read the stewards report.

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  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    goose said:

    Why doesnt Chui get more rides doesnt make many mistakes yet 1 ride yesterday and down for only 2 today at Bunbury cant work that out?

    Good point. He certainly gives them every chance

    Btw, Anybody know what happened to the frogman Lermyte?
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  • AmissionAmission    63 posts
    goose said:

    But Dungy hard to compare stats with Harvey and Pike because most times they are on the better horses.

    What would their stats look like if they rode, say more than 2 a meeting.
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    dungy said:

    :-SS
    Carey she has had 2 winners from her last 50 rides and her rides to winners is
    5 metro from 61
    16 bush from 213
    thats 21 from 274
    explain how that is better stats than most ???
    Explain ??

    50 rides is not enough to infer anything.
    then you need to take into account the prices of the horses, and the field sizes, and various other things.
    i could put up the stats(various ways including bayes) for every track, every standard, every price, versus any or every rider, and it would matter not at all, you would still believe what you believe.
    lucky for you the racing is not a profit making venture, so enjoy! :)
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