The Masters

TheDiva · August 2016

http://www.ozrace.com.au/perth-racing-lure-best-ascot/

saxonsaxoff · August 2016

so woopdy doo seems an appropriate response. moved the winterbottom back a week. just to make sure any of the spring sprinters from east that might have still been up are now in the spelling paddock.

spinking · August 2016

Any idea to get good horses here is a start might be a bit biased to the visitors though be interesting to see what upfront costs will be removed and what they have to put in if they run a drum

thefalcon · August 2016

unless they target it specifically, saxon...which I imagine a few will do.

bit rude asking for contribution from potential interstate winners and placegetters.

saxonsaxoff · August 2016

where does it say they have to give any $ back, I did't read that? I assume they will just subsidise some of the flight costs which is fair enough if it means a better field.

thefalcon · August 2016

its been cropped....the original did not mention boosts to the hotels, restaurants and retail, nor did it mention admission prices.

it has been amended!!

paraletic · August 2016

There is no way of telling that 10% of the people will be coming from interstate, talking absolute shite here. How about this, instead of predicting this rubbish how about ascertaining the facts, offer all interstate people a specialised free entry ticket or something tangible that can be redeemed and counting these coupons after the masters and then reporting the finding to say someone like Tourism WA?? If the numbers are good maybe you can attract some Tourism WA support for the event next year?????? Flippantly saying 10% means absolutely nothing, and I don't buy it - its a top shelf yarn.

saxonsaxoff · August 2016

I imagine this new system will get less interstate visitors. At least previously you could come and see 2 good group 1's on one saturday. No one is taking a week off work (let alone 2 weeks) to only go to 2 or 3 days of racing. They need the races closer together not further apart. Melb spring carnival you get 4 days of group racing in 8 days sat to sat. The masters is 3 days of racing over 15.

The railway and kingston need to be 2 weeks apart for obvious reasons but why not run the winterbottom on the thurs before kingston (no wed midweek obviously). Short stay visitors could hit that up with only a couple of days of leave and if someone wants to come across for all 3 meets then they get a decent gap between railway and winterbottom to actually go down south and do something.

RIO · August 2016

saxonsaxoff said:
I imagine this new system will get less interstate visitors. At least previously you could come and see 2 good group 1's on one saturday. No one is taking a week off work (let alone 2 weeks) to only go to 2 or 3 days of racing. They need the races closer together not further apart. Melb spring carnival you get 4 days of group racing in 8 days sat to sat. The masters is 3 days of racing over 15.
The railway and kingston need to be 2 weeks apart for obvious reasons but why not run the winterbottom on the thurs before kingston (no wed midweek obviously). Short stay visitors could hit that up with only a couple of days of leave and if someone wants to come across for all 3 meets then they get a decent gap between railway and winterbottom to actually go down south and do something.

it's not too hard is it.....

saxonsaxoff · August 2016

RIO said:

saxonsaxoff said:
I imagine this new system will get less interstate visitors. At least previously you could come and see 2 good group 1's on one saturday. No one is taking a week off work (let alone 2 weeks) to only go to 2 or 3 days of racing. They need the races closer together not further apart. Melb spring carnival you get 4 days of group racing in 8 days sat to sat. The masters is 3 days of racing over 15.
The railway and kingston need to be 2 weeks apart for obvious reasons but why not run the winterbottom on the thurs before kingston (no wed midweek obviously). Short stay visitors could hit that up with only a couple of days of leave and if someone wants to come across for all 3 meets then they get a decent gap between railway and winterbottom to actually go down south and do something.
it's not too hard is it.....

thefalcon · August 2016

why not put the w/bottom on the same card as one of the other 2.

visitors (excluding connections) may come for 8 days but not 3 bloody weeks...even 8 days is a bit of an ask...

therealkramer · August 2016

Listen to @saxonsaxoff. The last time he was speaking he was backed from 17s into 8s :)] :-\" $-)

saxonsaxoff · August 2016

therealkramer said:
Listen to @saxonsaxoff. The last time he was speaking he was backed from 17s into 8s :)] :-\" $-)

And what a glorious day it was @therealkramer shame I was only on for the place

RIO · August 2016

Broome have it sorted this week, Kalgoorlie been doing it for years, as has Bunbury. And Perth Racing????

DamienWyer · August 2016

https://www.facebook.com/PerthRacing/videos/10154009713029121/

So the media conference that I mentioned last week, then was subsequently delayed, was this today. Unfortunately it wasn't news to anyone within the Industry itself, more for the consumption of the general media who are largely ignorant of our sport, and would take on face value what they were being told.

I wonder who had the final say the in branding of the carnival ? Calling it 'The Masters' is nothing more than confusing. The Masters is a time honored Golf event in Georgia USA, it's also the name of several Tennis Pro tournaments around the World. Finally it is also the name given to a division of World Cycling that is best described as cashed up but over the hill cyclists who love to combine Sunday mornings social rides with racing, and the odd excuse for International travel for events called Gran Fondo's. The World Gran Fondo Championship is in Perth in September by the way.

But I digress. Nothing really changed other than the dates. The money remains the same, the qualification for entrants remain the same. The venue remains the same. There will be a Gr 1 on three consecutive Saturday's but most likely as in the last five years, only two of them could really lay claim to actually being Gr 1's.

So what did I miss ?

Legless · August 2016

NRL masters, AFL Masters [-(

:D

TheDiva · August 2016

aussiebob14 · August 2016

This is embarassing.

Masters Golf
TABtouch Perth DARTS Masters
Masters age group for sport (footy, cricket, soccer)
The Masters Games
Masters Choc Milk
Masters Home Failure
Masters Snooker

This mob are idiots. "Who the **** associates "masters" with a thoroughbred horse?!!!!!!"

Fastmoney · August 2016

Thinking the group hug would have been awkward.

RIO · August 2016

aussiebob14 said:
This is embarassing.

I seriously wonder what type of association the famous target age group of 25-35 associate Masters with???
Another 3 Saturdays when the members wont be able to get into their club cos THEIR Club has to sell all the tickets to outsiders on the big days!!!

:-??

frenc11 · August 2016

I just want it to be successful and crowd numbers go up , but from what i have read , i cross my fingers and hope

silky · August 2016

I'm not really a big fan of the races all bunched up into a carnival type setup. Id like to see feature races every fortnight with a standard Saturday meet in between. Kicking off with the Colonel Reeves or a 1000m Group race on Oct 8. Winterbottom 1200m Oct 22, Lee Steere 1400m Nov 5, Railway 1600m Nov 19, Kingston Town Dec 3, Cox Stakes Dec 17 and Perth Cup 1 Jan. We have enough other feature races around this time of year like 3yo lead ins to the guineas, champion fillies, mares series etc to make each day enticing to trainers and punters. Each of these features races could be worth 650k which would spread the prizemoney around and I think get more high quality horses from around Australia here. Its always hard to get the cream here because of the timing clash with the melbourne spring carnival.

thefalcon · August 2016

500 dozen oysters at 4 or 5 bucks a pop...dream on....

Jordan · August 2016

Doesn't matter what they do people are always going to find something to complain about at least they are trying something different lets see what happens and then comment until then lets give them some kudos for trying. If they did nothing and kept it the same people would still complain they are on a hiding to nothing it seems damned if they do damned if they don't

LuckyLongshots · August 2016

Just leave KT day as the best raceday of the summer....and no one gets hurt!

As for the rest of it....meh....

Off to see how a proper meeting is run....Broome here I come! :)

RIO · August 2016

Jordan said:
Doesn't matter what they do people are always going to find something to complain about at least they are trying something different lets see what happens and then comment until then lets give them some kudos for trying. If they did nothing and kept it the same people would still complain they are on a hiding to nothing it seems damned if they do damned if they don't

I'd normally agree Jordan. But their track recording of messing things up is so good that the confidence of them being able to perform the simplest of tasks has been lost. When I see these sort of promotions by PR, my first thought is "I hope the track holds up" Followed by all these statements are fanciful "10% will come from interstate" WTF did they dream this up from????

Confidence is shot with this mob.

Manchild · August 2016

Did Perth racing have anything to do with the Census ? Its got the same mark of incompetence all over it

spinking · August 2016

The blog I read on OZ race which is were Divas original post takes you, has been changed to the from the original I read on there yesterday

Gilgamesh · August 2016

So is it a 3 million dollar race? What are the race details? If it is 3mill as I read it I wonder what difference to fields it would make spreading that 3 mill over every sat race, approx 7000 per race. My guess is it would be a far better way to engage the whole industry from owners to trainers and punters if we could get field sizes up.

I'm not one of these guys to sit back and constantly knock fields as I think the more form you do the better you think the fields are but its very hard to get enthusiastic about having a punt when the fields are so small as there is so little value in the markets.

DamienWyer · August 2016

No it's a three race series comprising the Railway Stakes, the Winterbottom and the Kingston Town. All are Gr 1 $1M races, so nothing has changed in that respect. The additional coverage of free to air tv is very good and the additional catering on the day is welcomed. But let's not get confused by the announcement because it is not a fundamental change, just a calendar adjustment.
All of the same issues will still be there. Already talk has started regarding which horses are coming over. It's the same every year, and until there is a fundamental shift in the thinking of connections from the East Coast, nothing will ever change.

Gilgamesh · August 2016

Thanks Damien, what distance, handicap?

G'day Punter!

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