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Yankee · January 2022

Yankee · January 2022

Fair play to him, it is his choice.

TheDiva · January 2022

WA's TOP Jockey WILLIAM PIKE tells his STORY about missing the 2022 Perth Cup. - YouTube

Thunderstruck · January 2022

Honestly i watched only a bit..did it have to go for 12+ mins i doubt it?.Assume he actually isn't vaxxed rather than digging in about disclosure of his vax status.

Either way good on him for standing up for his principles and saying get stuffed to the hierachy certainly isn't alone in the "fight" here or in Australia generally.

thefalcon · January 2022

i'll refrain from commenting....at this stage..... :-?

JimmyPop · January 2022

I think he needed to be better advised.

Precision1 · January 2022

Why should he get vaxxed? He’s fit, healthy and relatively young, virtually no chance of getting seriously ill. And now we can see from cases over east being vaxxed or not does nothing to stop getting it and then spreading it. I said in another thread but I’ll say again this is screaming out for a fresh challenge. Vaccine mandates for work can’t be legal if they achieve nothing which is now obvious to see

Yankee · January 2022

"He’s fit, healthy and relatively young, virtually no chance of getting seriously ill" so then a piddly vaccine is not going to cause any drama considering it has been given to millions.I know the reason is a lot closer to home but lets not go there Paddy Carberry supports him!

brady · January 2022

Wifey rules the Roost lol

Vincent_vega · January 2022

brady said:
Wifey rules the Roost lol

Yeah, shes a vegan too. Whilst i dont have a problem with this lifestyle choice at all, i do have a problem with hypocrites. They profit from trading cattle...... tell me this isn't hypocritical.

Precision1 · January 2022

Yankee said:
"He’s fit, healthy and relatively young, virtually no chance of getting seriously ill" so then a piddly vaccine is not going to cause any drama considering it has been given to millions.I know the reason is a lot closer to home but lets not go there Paddy Carberry supports him!

The politics of fear have worked so well that now you can’t even question the health advise without being labelled a crazy even when the logic of it is obviously flawed. That’s not a democracy and we’re on a quick trip to socialism at this rate

Can you please explain why COVID jab mandates for any workforce are legitimate if the jab doesn’t prevent catching or spreading of it?

brady · January 2022

But it helps heaps
Just look at the evidence

SLIPPERGOLDEN · January 2022

Is Pike a Piker?

With the fortune he has earnt he can certainly select if and if not he needs to ride but the scenario would be a lot different if he was a struggling jockey

LETSDOTHIS · January 2022

Has anyone found out if Turner and Whiting are the same as Willy? Or have they just been a bit lazy and not got it sorted yet?

SLIPPERGOLDEN · January 2022

Turner and Whiting can stay in the bush and keep Knuckey with them

H-BOMBER · January 2022

I thought after watching that he did himself no favours, mainly that there are better ways to convey your message of you feel you need to. Seemed amateurish to me. Who are Freedom WA media anyway?

freodockers · January 2022

Seemed more of a promotion for the producers than anything else.
Not something that will be in there highlight reels down the track.
Loved the photobomber foal.
Stole the show in the end.

thefalcon · January 2022

i thought the same, bomber. when he said seeing nurses and police taking a stance swayed him. what a load of rubbish, we can all know he was "swayed" much closer to home...in fact from home itself.

personally i feel anybody who deliberately does not have the vaccine are socially selfish, ignorant fools.

Gray · January 2022

I fell asleep after 6 minutes

bookielover · January 2022

I'll just say this about the vaccines.

If you are, like me and the missus, over 70, and like her in particular, have underlying medical conditions which, in her case, require her to take 36 tablets a day, you are being a complete goose not being double vaccinated, and having the booster.

We have had all three.

Does that mean we won't contract the virus? No it does not. However the facts and figures, when they actually bother to release them, show, that you are a 98% chance of avoiding death if you, like my wife with her conditions, are fully vaccinated.

Now, we all know, that whether you are vaccinated or not, you can both give and receive the virus. What we are seeing, is that both vaccinated and unvaccinated are getting the virus, but for 90% of the vaccinated who get it, they are isolating at home, and report that for three days, they feel nothing more than sluggish, and a bit of a head cold.

At least, that's what a mate of mine, on his third marriage told me, when his 8 year old brought it home from school and he caught it. He's 68, fully vaccinated, had a massive heart attack and bypasses about a year ago, isolated at home, and was monitored by the Alfred Hospital here, just in case he got bad. He didn't and was good as gold after 5 days. His specialist told him, that had he not been vaccinated, he'd be stuffed.

There are 10% in ICU that have had either one or two jabs, but are mostly elderly, and are either obese, suffer from asthma or have massive underlying health conditions such as cancer.

All of them, have contracted the Delta variant.

Thus far, only one person in this country has died from Omicron, and they were in their 90's living in an aged care facility,, were double vaccinated but had massive health issues.

Omicron does not attack the lung tissues, so whilst it is more infectious, it is 80% less virulent than Delta. that is why none of the States where it's rampant are thus far, locking down.

The other thing to consider, is that we are coming into summer, and viruses hate hot weather, so we will get lots of cases, but provided we are double vaccinated and have the booster, the hot weather and that protection will see us through.

Bottom line for me is, If you don't want to get vaccinated and are prepared to take your chance of not getting seriously ill if you contract the virus,, particularly if you are in the vulnerable age group, that's entirely up to you.

detonator · January 2022

H-BOMBER said:
I thought after watching that he did himself no favours, mainly that there are better ways to convey your message of you feel you need to. Seemed amateurish to me. Who are Freedom WA media anyway?

Freedom W.A is one of the “satellite cults” that are popping up on YouTube, and all social media forums. It is brainwashing like nothing we have ever seen. Unfortunately a lot of weak minded people in the western world are being brainwashed by this avalanche of propaganda.

We have not had Covid here (in any significant numbers)anyway. When it arrives post Feb 5th and all the anti Covid vaxxers start seeing their unvaxxed friends and relatives being shipped to hospitals in ambulances they may start to have a different view.

Rodent · January 2022

thefalcon said:
personally i feel anybody who deliberately does not have the vaccine are socially selfish, ignorant fools.

Quite the sweeping statement. The reasons surely count. If you're saying no valid reasons exist, then I think that would be foolish and ignorant.

For the record, I'll be having my 3rd shot soon.

wedge · January 2022

This is the purest display of Passive aggressive I have seen for some time.
No one needs to go to ‘Freedom WA’ these days, just open a Twitter account and say what you have to say.
This completely exposes the agenda, and it’s more about a wacko movement than it is about public health.
Seriously, some are acting like we all willingly want to take the jab…. It’s an emerging public health crisis that is upon us.
Championing people who decided to leave public services instead of having the jab that no one really wants, like they are an inspiration for an uprising... embarrassing.

Precision1 · January 2022

All those bagging him, can any of you explain why him choosing not to get it should result in him not being allowed to ride? For the record I’m double vaccinated and will be getting my 3rd when I’m due. But if I’m honest I make plenty of other choices in my life that probably aren’t ideal for my health. Should the Government be able to enforce me to alter those to protect the health system? That’s not that far fetched. Everyone that says it’s just one shot, it’s just a small inconvenience. That’s how it works, it’s a creep where we lose one small freedom at a time until there are no freedoms. The way we are allowing government control to explode unchallenged scares me

wedge · January 2022

Precision1 said:
All those bagging him, can any of you explain why him choosing not to get it should result in him not being allowed to ride? For the record I’m double vaccinated and will be getting my 3rd when I’m due. But if I’m honest I make plenty of other choices in my life that probably aren’t ideal for my health. Should the Government be able to enforce me to alter those to protect the health system? That’s not that far fetched. Everyone that says it’s just one shot, it’s just a small inconvenience. That’s how it works, it’s a creep where we lose one small freedom at a time until there are no freedoms. The way we are allowing government control to explode unchallenged scares me

It’s a public health initiative, not a government conspiracy. It’s a democracy, we can vote governments in or out - we’ve voted for this, so we cop it sweet.
it’s an absolutely crazy snapshot in time and there is no perfect way forward. Fortunately, most industry participants agree with this and understand accordingly.

detonator · January 2022

I stand corrected on this.

If your are fully vaxxed you can still pass on a “weakened” version of Covid.

If that is the case I would be **** if Willie walks in and gives everyone the full blown version as opposed to the weakened version.

Open to a second opinion on this ? And if you from Freedom W.A don’t bother responding.

B-)

curmudgeon · January 2022

Funny that ....never in my 64 years have I been the recipient of a recommended immunisation unless there has been an actual particularly nasty global disease threat existing. I must have been lucky my "freedoms" haven't been surreptitiously scuppered as a matter of government policy.

thefalcon · January 2022

sorry wedge i meant to click the "like" logo.

curmudgeon, didn't you get immunised for polio and other nasties at school? no okays from mum and dad, just line up and get them. them were the days...

:-\"

H-BOMBER · January 2022

The angle about "knowing or giving out private information" when going to a restaurant etc doesn't wash with me. If you own a phone, bank card/account or do a tax return then your information is out there.

The simple fact is, there is a choice here and kudos to Pikey for exercising his choice. It shouldn't be questioned, as he has the right to choose to have it or not. Is he well informed? He may be, however this didn't come across in the video at all. Is it anyone's business.....NO.....only if he walks away and makes that decision. It is participants business though if he chooses to "work un-safely" in the eyes of the employer.

So at the same time, a work place surely has the due diligence to keep the employees or contactors on site safe. If RWWA deem it an unsafe workplace to be non vaccinated, then surely it is their right to enforce this. Pikey is an employee of RWWA and also an independent contractor I suppose. So if he wants to work under RWWA then he has to follow his employers guidelines. Also, as an independent contractor, he needs to abide by the workplace rules of working on site.

I note the comment above about if he was a struggling jock who needed the income would things be different. Probably not with him. The was no antivax talk, just his feeling of being cornered and standing up for his choice to say no. He gives reasoning to what he has heard, as in people only getting jabbed so they can work or travel etc. These ARE valid points as I see it as people are doing this under a health directive.

As for conspiracy theorists, well they can please themselves. They sprout to "get educated" and "don't be sheep". To me it's the highest form of ignorance and selfishness.

wedge · January 2022

curmudgeon said:
Funny that ....never in my 64 years have I been the recipient of a recommended immunisation unless there has been an actual particularly nasty global disease threat existing. I must have been lucky my "freedoms" haven't been surreptitiously scuppered as a matter of government policy.

What we have here is vaccination, not immunisation, and that is the issue. Vaccination does not always lead to immunisation, hence why we have regular seasonal flu shots to accomodate for mutations.
Amongst a whole bunch of others, I recall in 2004 not being able to enter back into Australia from Brazil without a yellow fever ticket. How is this any different? No diff for someone not being able to enter a racecourse etc. it’s simple public health policy, not a conspiracy.

Thunderstruck · January 2022

Gray said:
I fell asleep after 6 minutes

I couldn't get near that long into it...if their crocks as Det said well they can EAD.

Fair play Willie it is your right to not get the jab(s) #farrkktheknockers

G'day Punter!

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