AFL Round 4

Unknown · April 2011

a bit of normality restored after Round 3

Freo in the 8 - WCE out of the 8

Looks like the comp is already sorting itself out

Pies ==> Hawks, Cats - top rung

Ess, Freo, Blues, Dogs, Swans - next rung

Crows, Saints - battling for the 8

WCE, Kangaroos, Melbourne - will try but wont make it

Gold Coast, Brisbane, Port Adel, Tigers - battling for spoon

THIS WEEKS GAMES

2011 AFL Premiership Season - R4
15 Apr 7:40 pm Rich vs. Coll MCG
16 Apr 2:10 pm Haw vs. WCE Aurora
16 Apr 2:10 pm Carl vs. Ess MCG
16 Apr 7:10 pm Syd vs. Geel SCG
16 Apr 7:40 pm Port vs. Adel AAMI
17 Apr 2:10 pm GCS vs. Melb Gabba
17 Apr 4:40 pm Frem vs. NthM PS

octavius · April 2011

Surely a must win game for GC if they want to make the 8?

They are going to have to do something about that % of theirs too.

Melbourne were horrible on the weekend, so maybe they will open their a/c, what you reckon Della, chance?

Watts would want to start showing something this year...

dungy · April 2011

Occy the question must be ask in view of Goodes pulling your team apart in the last 6-8 mins of Saturday night ,,,,,, who did that dead beat of a coach of yours put on him as he single handed beat you blokes on his own and didnt seem to have a man ??? fair dinkum Worsfold has the brains in the box of Hommer Simpson and to hear him at the press conferance just baffles me and as i have already stated i thought you blokes were good on Saturday night but the coaching staff has to have you worried ?? Agree

Tivers · April 2011

Love it how we have one bad game and are suddenly battling for the spoon.
We'll be certainties after getting flogged by Collingwood this week then. Load up now !!!

Think you may find the Hawks are pretty darn smart............

dungy · April 2011

Agree with you Tivs on the Hawks but would still like to see the Hawks do it week in week they went like shite against the crows problem is there coach Clarkson is a minibus but they will finish 2nd to Collingwood someone has to i supopose

TheFunkster · April 2011

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Think you may find the Hawks are pretty darn smart............

Over-rated, as they have been for several seasons. Over-achieved one year and done nothing since.
Apart from Pies the next best teams would be Cats, Dons, Freo and maybe Swans.
Yeah, yeah, all u non-Freo supporters will think I am biased, but if they kicked straighter against the Cats they would be undefeated. Plus still have Barlow, Hayden, Mzungu and Silvagni all to come back into their best 22. And I didn't mention Ibbotson as I don't think he will be in their best 22.
They should start favourites in all their matches up until Rd 11, so could very well be 8 wins 1 loss at that stage. 2nd half the season a bit tougher, but should still finish top 4 :thumbup:

octavius · April 2011

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Occy the question must be ask in view of Goodes pulling your team apart in the last 6-8 mins of Saturday night ,,,,,, who did that dead beat of a coach of yours put on him as he single handed beat you blokes on his own and didnt seem to have a man ??? fair dinkum Worsfold has the brains in the box of Hommer Simpson and to hear him at the press conferance just baffles me and as i have already stated i thought you blokes were good on Saturday night but the coaching staff has to have you worried ?? Agree

You don't accidentally win two brownlow medals, he's a star and he's a star because he can win a game off his own boot. Was relatively well held up until the last quarter.

We should have won that game, but we are a below average side so no surprises there, we have improved though from last year and the kids are playing with some hunger, so we should finish out of the bottom 4 IMO if we have a decent run with injuries.

I have stated on here numerous times what I think of Worsfold as a coach.

dungy · April 2011

I no how brilliant AG is but my question was did [we will not get the wooden spoon] Woosha forget to tagged him late when the game was on the line i agree he was held whilst a fwd by Mitch Brown but Adam Selwood is a f grader why try and stop a superstar using a bloke like him and again i agree you have improved but your clearances are a problem and around stoppages as you have 2 brillaint ruckmen in DC and NN i think thats were they beat you on Saturday night to be honest

Dec · April 2011

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I no how brilliant AG is but my question was did [we will not get the wooden spoon] Woosha forget to tagged him late when the game was on the line i agree he was held whilst a fwd by Mitch Brown but Adam Selwood is a f grader why try and stop a superstar using a bloke like him and again i agree you have improved but your clearances are a problem and around stoppages as you have 2 brillaint ruckmen in DC and NN i think thats were they beat you on Saturday night to be honest

Goodes is a superstar and even his own teammates reckon he is currently going better than ever. He was well held by Brown but wasnt getting great delivery either, you cant run Brown through the midfield with him so if Adam Selwood is an 'F Grader' maybe enlighten us with who you would have played on him?

dungy · April 2011

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I no how brilliant AG is but my question was did [we will not get the wooden spoon] Woosha forget to tagged him late when the game was on the line i agree he was held whilst a fwd by Mitch Brown but Adam Selwood is a f grader why try and stop a superstar using a bloke like him and again i agree you have improved but your clearances are a problem and around stoppages as you have 2 brillaint ruckmen in DC and NN i think thats were they beat you on Saturday night to be honest
Goodes is a superstar and even his own teammates reckon he is currently going better than ever. He was well held by Brown but wasnt getting great delivery either, you cant run Brown through the midfield with him so if Adam Selwood is an 'F Grader' maybe enlighten us with who you would have played on him?

I would have put Shannon Hurn on him but hey thats the problem you have when you win the wooden spoon there aint much in the bottom of the barrel is there to choose from replace ya coach and then your on the right track buddy

Tivers · April 2011

Occy - you got a horse in at the tangles tonight ?
Pace 7, #2

octavius · April 2011

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I no how brilliant AG is but my question was did [we will not get the wooden spoon] Woosha forget to tagged him late when the game was on the line i agree he was held whilst a fwd by Mitch Brown but Adam Selwood is a f grader why try and stop a superstar using a bloke like him and again i agree you have improved but your clearances are a problem and around stoppages as you have 2 brillaint ruckmen in DC and NN i think thats were they beat you on Saturday night to be honest

Adam Selwood is horrible by foot, almost the worst in the league, but he is an A grade stopper, just ask Brent Harvey from round 2.

Can only remember one of Goodes last quarter goals as I was pretty pissed on Friday night and haven't finished watching the tv replay, but I'm guessing both goals came from playing as a midfielder (unless one of those goals included the one where he gave Brown a little push in the back).

The problem Selwood and most people have tagging Goodes in the midfield is his breakaway acceleration and strength once he's on the move, in open play he is just so damaging with that combination of speed and strength, similar to what NicNat will hopefully become in a couple of years time once he develops his game.

And yes, our clearances are a problem, not so much the quantity, rather the quality, i.e. run and carry clearance work, which is why NicNat has been used on the ball at times when Cox is rucking.

Priddis isn't damaging with his clearance work, but will become more effective if we can develop some run and carry players to get on the end of his work, something we continue not to draft.

Kerr is just too slow these days, needs another month of football and not too sure where and how he should be played these days because the moment he gets the ball he has three blokes hanging off him. They obviously still want him to be an in and under clearance player but not sure what that is worth these days, if he can get fit, he should be running and spreading from the clearance rather than in and under, so he can beat his opponents on the move in space 1 on 1.

Shuey is going to be our most damaging player at stoppages soon enough, but we need a couple more.

octavius · April 2011

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I would have put Shannon Hurn on him but hey thats the problem you have when you win the wooden spoon there aint much in the bottom of the barrel is there to choose from replace ya coach and then your on the right track buddy

Hurn on Goodes...lol

Dec · April 2011

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I no how brilliant AG is but my question was did [we will not get the wooden spoon] Woosha forget to tagged him late when the game was on the line i agree he was held whilst a fwd by Mitch Brown but Adam Selwood is a f grader why try and stop a superstar using a bloke like him and again i agree you have improved but your clearances are a problem and around stoppages as you have 2 brillaint ruckmen in DC and NN i think thats were they beat you on Saturday night to be honest
Goodes is a superstar and even his own teammates reckon he is currently going better than ever. He was well held by Brown but wasnt getting great delivery either, you cant run Brown through the midfield with him so if Adam Selwood is an 'F Grader' maybe enlighten us with who you would have played on him?
I would have put Shannon Hurn on him but hey thats the problem you have when you win the wooden spoon there aint much in the bottom of the barrel is there to choose from replace ya coach and then your on the right track buddy

I thought you Dockers supporters dont like living in the past, its all about the present? Hurn is a defender, not a tagger. There's a big difference between standing next to someone in the backline and running through the midfield with him.

For the record I reckon Adam Selwood goes ok and on Worsfold, two wins and a close loss to a good side isnt a bad start to the year, particularly given we're missing our best forward.

dungy · April 2011

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I no how brilliant AG is but my question was did [we will not get the wooden spoon] Woosha forget to tagged him late when the game was on the line i agree he was held whilst a fwd by Mitch Brown but Adam Selwood is a f grader why try and stop a superstar using a bloke like him and again i agree you have improved but your clearances are a problem and around stoppages as you have 2 brillaint ruckmen in DC and NN i think thats were they beat you on Saturday night to be honest
Goodes is a superstar and even his own teammates reckon he is currently going better than ever. He was well held by Brown but wasnt getting great delivery either, you cant run Brown through the midfield with him so if Adam Selwood is an 'F Grader' maybe enlighten us with who you would have played on him?
I would have put Shannon Hurn on him but hey thats the problem you
have when you win the wooden spoon there aint much in the bottom of the barrel is there to choose from replace ya coach and then your on the right track buddy
Hey it aint my problem you havent got the cattle im just trying to help and offer a plan to help you rise as for for Woosha well upto you DEC but he did tell ewveryone outright that WE WONT WIN THE WOODEN SPOON and i think ya did from memory :wink:

I thought you Dockers supporters dont like living in the past, its all about the present? Hurn is a defender, not a tagger. There's a big difference between standing next to someone in the backline and running through the midfield with him.

For the record I reckon Adam Selwood goes ok and on Worsfold, two wins and a close loss to a good side isnt a bad start to the year, particularly given we're missing our best forward.

Dec · April 2011

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I no how brilliant AG is but my question was did [we will not get the wooden spoon] Woosha forget to tagged him late when the game was on the line i agree he was held whilst a fwd by Mitch Brown but Adam Selwood is a f grader why try and stop a superstar using a bloke like him and again i agree you have improved but your clearances are a problem and around stoppages as you have 2 brillaint ruckmen in DC and NN i think thats were they beat you on Saturday night to be honest
Goodes is a superstar and even his own teammates reckon he is currently going better than ever. He was well held by Brown but wasnt getting great delivery either, you cant run Brown through the midfield with him so if Adam Selwood is an 'F Grader' maybe enlighten us with who you would have played on him?
I would have put Shannon Hurn on him but hey thats the problem you
have when you win the wooden spoon there aint much in the bottom of the barrel is there to choose from replace ya coach and then your on the right track buddy
Hey it aint my problem you havent got the cattle im just trying to help and offer a plan to help you rise as for for Woosha well upto you DEC but he did tell ewveryone outright that WE WONT WIN THE WOODEN SPOON and i think ya did from memory :wink:

I thought you Dockers supporters dont like living in the past, its all about the present? Hurn is a defender, not a tagger. There's a big difference between standing next to someone in the backline and running through the midfield with him.

For the record I reckon Adam Selwood goes ok and on Worsfold, two wins and a close loss to a good side isnt a bad start to the year, particularly given we're missing our best forward.

If you're gunna quote me Dungy at least make it a bit more subtle :lol:

I may have said I didnt think we would win the spoon early last year, not sure? But I'm sure I said we wouldnt win the spoon this year with even luck with injuries when Della's recruiting mate said WC were a monty for bottom 2 (about the same time he said Gold Coast were a good bet for the eight). Might be an early crow but I hope he recruits better than he tips!

dungy · April 2011

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I no how brilliant AG is but my question was did [we will not get the wooden spoon] Woosha forget to tagged him late when the game was on the line i agree he was held whilst a fwd by Mitch Brown but Adam Selwood is a f grader why try and stop a superstar using a bloke like him and again i agree you have improved but your clearances are a problem and around stoppages as you have 2 brillaint ruckmen in DC and NN i think thats were they beat you on Saturday night to be honest
Goodes is a superstar and even his own teammates reckon he is currently going better than ever. He was well held by Brown but wasnt getting great delivery either, you cant run Brown through the midfield with him so if Adam Selwood is an 'F Grader' maybe enlighten us with who you would have played on him?
I would have put Shannon Hurn on him but hey thats the problem you
have when you win the wooden spoon there aint much in the bottom of the barrel is there to choose from replace ya coach and then your on the right track buddy
Hey it aint my problem you havent got the cattle im just trying to help and offer a plan to help you rise as for for Woosha well upto you DEC but he did tell ewveryone outright that WE WONT WIN THE WOODEN SPOON and i think ya did from memory :wink:

I thought you Dockers supporters dont like living in the past, its all about the present? Hurn is a defender, not a tagger. There's a big difference between standing next to someone in the backline and running through the midfield with him.

For the record I reckon Adam Selwood goes ok and on Worsfold, two wins and a close loss to a good side isnt a bad start to the year, particularly given we're missing our best forward.
If you're gunna quote me Dungy at least make it a bit more subtle :lol:

I may have said I didnt think we would win the spoon early last year, not sure? But I'm sure I said we wouldnt win the spoon this year with even luck with injuries when Della's recruiting mate said WC were a monty for bottom 2 (about the same time he said Gold Coast were a good bet for the eight). Might be an early crow but I hope he recruits better than he tips!

You have lost me DEC as i wasnt quoting you i was taking the piss out of Woosha as he was the one that said i dont ever recall you saying bud :D :D at least you have a sense of humor DEC

octavius · April 2011

I'm sick of all these players coming out after they do something stupid, in which many of the incidents are laughable (Jacks finger gesture) and apologizing to the club, the fans, their family etc etc, I mean seriously, it comes across so insincere and they are clearly just toeing the clubs line to save face.

TorpedoPunt · April 2011

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I'm sick of all these players coming out after they do something stupid, in which many of the incidents are laughable (Jacks finger gesture) and apologizing to the club, the fans, their family etc etc, I mean seriously, it comes across so insincere and they are clearly just toeing the clubs line to save face.

Jack needs to get over himself.

Showing Richoesque type tendancies - although he does kick straight.

It'll wear thin on the faithful unless he pulls his head in.

dungy · April 2011

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I'm sick of all these players coming out after they do something stupid, in which many of the incidents are laughable (Jacks finger gesture) and apologizing to the club, the fans, their family etc etc, I mean seriously, it comes across so insincere and they are clearly just toeing the clubs line to save face.
Jack needs to get over himself.

Showing Richoesque type tendancies - although he does kick straight.

It'll wear thin on the faithful unless he pulls his head in.

He does have a touch of me ,me ,me about him i remember in a pre season game last year and he kicked a goal and ran around pounding on his chest and carried on a bit and after the match Cuz pulled him aside and dressed him down but doesnt seem to listen as the way he also carried on when he got subbed of the other week was nothing short of childish but the boy can play just a bit of a colt he will be all right

Tivers · April 2011

Yep. F him off now I reckon.............
(for a VERY juicy trade of course)

Reidwoldt for Goddard ??? :)

TheFunkster · April 2011

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Yep. F him off now I reckon.............
(for a VERY juicy trade of course)

Reidwoldt for Goddard ??? :)

Ok, you can have any one of our players you like for him!
Maybe not Shonen though... :P

relleche · April 2011

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I no how brilliant AG is but my question was did [we will not get the wooden spoon] Woosha forget to tagged him late when the game was on the line i agree he was held whilst a fwd by Mitch Brown but Adam Selwood is a f grader why try and stop a superstar using a bloke like him and again i agree you have improved but your clearances are a problem and around stoppages as you have 2 brillaint ruckmen in DC and NN i think thats were they beat you on Saturday night to be honest
Goodes is a superstar and even his own teammates reckon he is currently going better than ever. He was well held by Brown but wasnt getting great delivery either, you cant run Brown through the midfield with him so if Adam Selwood is an 'F Grader' maybe enlighten us with who you would have played on him?
I would have put Shannon Hurn on him but hey thats the problem you have when you win the wooden spoon there aint much in the bottom of the barrel is there to choose from replace ya coach and then your on the right track buddy
I thought you Dockers supporters dont like living in the past, its all about the present? Hurn is a defender, not a tagger. There's a big difference between standing next to someone in the backline and running through the midfield with him.

For the record I reckon Adam Selwood goes ok and on Worsfold, two wins and a close loss to a good side isnt a bad start to the year, particularly given we're missing our best forward.

This is wet toasts problem not willing to try something different, who knows hurn could be a good(es) stopper, maybe even nic nat, there trying everything else to get him into the game, running him against goodes will at least get him to where the ball is, but you lot wont find out as your coaching staff are a bunch of mongs without an original idea between the lot of them. :roll:

Unknown · April 2011

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Yep. F him off now I reckon.............
(for a VERY juicy trade of course)

Reidwoldt for Goddard ??? :)

add your top round draft pick and you might be a chance

dungy · April 2011

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I no how brilliant AG is but my question was did [we will not get the wooden spoon] Woosha forget to tagged him late when the game was on the line i agree he was held whilst a fwd by Mitch Brown but Adam Selwood is a f grader why try and stop a superstar using a bloke like him and again i agree you have improved but your clearances are a problem and around stoppages as you have 2 brillaint ruckmen in DC and NN i think thats were they beat you on Saturday night to be honest
Goodes is a superstar and even his own teammates reckon he is currently going better than ever. He was well held by Brown but wasnt getting great delivery either, you cant run Brown through the midfield with him so if Adam Selwood is an 'F Grader' maybe enlighten us with who you would have played on him?
I would have put Shannon Hurn on him but hey thats the problem you have when you win the wooden spoon there aint much in the bottom of the barrel is there to choose from replace ya coach and then your on the right track buddy
I thought you Dockers supporters dont like living in the past, its all about the present? Hurn is a defender, not a tagger. There's a big difference between standing next to someone in the backline and running through the midfield with him.

For the record I reckon Adam Selwood goes ok and on Worsfold, two wins and a close loss to a good side isnt a bad start to the year, particularly given we're missing our best forward.
This is wet toasts problem not willing to try something different, who knows hurn could be a good(es) stopper, maybe even nic nat, there trying everything else to get him into the game, running him against goodes will at least get him to where the ball is, but you lot wont find out as your coaching staff are a bunch of mongs without an original idea between the lot of them. :roll:

Good spray Relleche well done

octavius · April 2011

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This is wet toasts problem not willing to try something different, who knows hurn could be a good(es) stopper, maybe even nic nat, there trying everything else to get him into the game, running him against goodes will at least get him to where the ball is, but you lot wont find out as your coaching staff are a bunch of mongs without an original idea between the lot of them. :roll:

You have no idea, why would we use our only quality outlet from the backline to tag somebody? Hurn should be playing on the least dangerous forward so he can run off and create with his elite kicking skills.

As for your NicNat suggestion I am not even going to bother with a logical response.

Your ideas are original alright, they are also stupid.

Jordan · April 2011

Selwood does a good job of stopping elite players a lot of the time im not a huge fan but you can't question his work ethic and commitment to the cause but let's face it he just got towelled up by a player who will probably go down as the greatest player to play for the swans, duel brownlow medalist and you could see he sensed the game was there to be won for them and he turned it on would have been pretty hard for anyone to stop him in that last quarter.

One thing that does shit me is that a lot of footy players don't seem to be able to read the play well or don't use there brains a lot. The Matt Rosa incident made me furious here we are pumping the ball constantly into the forward 50 putting enourmous pressure on the swans without result the ball comes out of the swans defensive 50 and is going towards the wing area with very few players in the forward half for Sydney and Rosa running into the contest with Jetta who is clearly going to out run him so grab him by the shirt and flatten him give away the free and give your team mates a chance to get back into there defensive half and slow the game down. But in Rosa's wisdom he thinks he can chase down Jetta just to see him fly past him and Hurn and kick a jammy but team lifting goal !!!!!

TorpedoPunt · April 2011

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Yep. F him off now I reckon.............
(for a VERY juicy trade of course)

Reidwoldt for Goddard ??? :)

Preferred course of action - a good belting from a couple of the boys behind the sheds whilst Dimma reads the riot act to him.

Tivers · April 2011

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Yep. F him off now I reckon.............
(for a VERY juicy trade of course)

Reidwoldt for Goddard ??? :)
Ok, you can have any one of our players you like for him!
Maybe not Shonen though... :P

Hmmmm................Interesting suggestion.
Who would we take ?
Well first suggestion would be Pav, but too old (comparitively) so pass.
Hill ? Fyfe ? - not really proven enough yet.
Who else ?

dungy · April 2011

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Yep. F him off now I reckon.............
(for a VERY juicy trade of course)

Reidwoldt for Goddard ??? :)
Ok, you can have any one of our players you like for him!
Maybe not Shonen though... :P
Hmmmm................Interesting suggestion.
Who would we take ?
Well first suggestion would be Pav, but too old (comparitively) so pass.
Hill ? Fyfe ? - not really proven enough yet.
Who else ?

Hill and Fyfe not proven agree but Jacks had 1 big year and has a 2 cent head

Unknown · April 2011

you can have Byron Schammer and Jack Anthony

G'day Punter!

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