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joneseejonesee    715 posts
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/mark-riley-beats-bicarb-charge/story-fn67siys-1226227125366

at least we dont let off repeat milkshakers because they are too good at the milkshaking to have made such a clear mistake...bizarre!

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  • SuburbanPunkSuburbanPunk    199 posts
    The mouldy old corn !!!
  • ICEICE    683 posts
    Wot a Joke 8)
  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,451 posts
    Now I can make more sense from the song MILKSHAKE


    My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard,
    And there like,
    Its better than yours,
    Damn right its better than yours,
    I can teach you,
    But I have to charge

    Once you get involved,
    Everyone will look this way-so,
    You must maintain your charm,
    Same time maintain your halo,
    Just get the perfect blend.
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,482 posts
    you've got too much spare time, slip.... :roll:
  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,451 posts
    It appears you also love the Village People Rodent. Are you having what Bobby Davis is having? :shock:

    And Falcon I've got a spare few minutes between wrapping presents. Mariah Carey on radio singing 'All I want For Christmas Is You'... All I want for Christmas is Mariah to stop singing that song :roll:
  • RodentRodent    7,470 posts
    said:

    It appears you also love the Village People Rodent. Are you having what Bobby Davis is having? :shock:

    And Falcon I've got a spare few minutes between wrapping presents. Mariah Carey on radio singing 'All I want For Christmas Is You'... All I want for Christmas is Mariah to stop singing that song :roll:

    I like my avatar too much to love the village people :wink:
  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    excuse my ignorance but is bi carb a performance enhancer or is it a masking agent?
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,482 posts
    dunno..but mix it with some liquid and see what happens.... :wink:
  • RodentRodent    7,470 posts
    said:

    excuse my ignorance but is bi carb a performance enhancer or is it a masking agent?

    Both
  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Rodent - ever heard much about humans taking bicarb?
  • ericwanduericwandu    544 posts
    i dont think bicarb is banned by ASADA but in saying that i dont think the body reacts very well to it.
  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    I've seen it used plenty of times, was just curious to see if Rodent (being a vet who wrote a paper on the topic) had any interesting stories to tell
  • ericwanduericwandu    544 posts
    yeah id like to know the side affects.
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    said:

    said:

    excuse my ignorance but is bi carb a performance enhancer or is it a masking agent?

    Both
    i drink a teaspoon of it in water several times a week, and my performance is still not up to it!
    and it does not mask that fact either :lol: :lol:
  • RodentRodent    7,470 posts
    said:

    I've seen it used plenty of times, was just curious to see if Rodent (being a vet who wrote a paper on the topic) had any interesting stories to tell

    Nothing to tell. I just reviewed all the scientific papers on milkshakes that I could find.
    Had to laugh when they couldn't prove improved performance statistically. If a horse improved its mile time from 1min 40 sec (100 seconds) to 1 min 39seconds (99 seconds) it was deemed 1% improvement.
    Yeah right, 6 lengths is 1% improvement :lol:
  • joneseejonesee    715 posts
    said:

    The mouldy old corn !!!

    love it --- got a feeling our trots boys will be out planting corn today!
  • ArloArlo    122 posts
    I thought I had better go down to the local feed shop to buy a couple of bags of Mouldy Corn just in case.
    However the feed store said there had been a sudden rush on it and they had sold out by yesterday afternoon!
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    this is the best line out of the article:

    Judge Lewis said it was "an inherent improbability" that Riley, who he said was "well experienced in stomach tubing horses," would add what could only be described as an extraordinary amount of bicarb to a race-day drench.

    he's so good and experienced at tubing, that he couldnt possibly have put that much in its system?

    goodness....therefore he couldnt be found guilty?

    how bout this, sir, you had 12kg of cocaine strapped to your body, boarding a plane. As you are an experienced drug mule, we know you couldnt be that stupid....so we'll let you off!!!!
  • AquanitaAquanita    566 posts
    Harness trainer Ross Olivieri had his appeal on a post race TCO2 dismissed today. Decision handed down immediately and 12 months disqualification starts today. Announced on Sky 2.

    May be time to start post race testing for TCO2 at gallops as well.
  • joneseejonesee    715 posts
    yes ---also love to have the bicarb level of all tests made public.
  • said:

    this is the best line out of the article:

    Judge Lewis said it was "an inherent improbability" that Riley, who he said was "well experienced in stomach tubing horses," would add what could only be described as an extraordinary amount of bicarb to a race-day drench.

    he's so good and experienced at tubing, that he couldnt possibly have put that much in its system?

    goodness....therefore he couldnt be found guilty?

    how bout this, sir, you had 12kg of cocaine strapped to your body, boarding a plane. As you are an experienced drug mule, we know you couldnt be that stupid....so we'll let you off!!!!

    a very loose analogy given there is no proof Mark Riley administered the drug whereas the drug mule by having the stuff taped to him is beyond proof

    I find it hard to believe that people on here are so quick to knock the decisions of those most suitably qualified to make them
  • ArloArlo    122 posts
    I thought the decicision was odd.
    My questions would be:
    Was there proof that the horse was fed mouldy corn?.

    Did the trainer know he had fed mouldy corn and if so why not remove the feed before the horse ate it?

    Did he only find out after the horse had eaten it, if so, how did he know it was mouldy if the horse had already eaten it?

    Why would he start the horse if he knew it had eaten mouldy corn?

    Is there proof that mouldy corn can raise the level of TCo2 to 39 especially as it was fed the night beore the race?

    Will horses eat mouldy corn? Mine wont eat mouldy hay!
  • the stewards need to prove Riley was guilty - not Riley needing to prove his innocence

    he pleaded guilty to bringing the horse to the races with drugs in its system so they should just hit him with the max penalty for that
  • joneseejonesee    715 posts
    said:

    said:

    this is the best line out of the article:

    Judge Lewis said it was "an inherent improbability" that Riley, who he said was "well experienced in stomach tubing horses," would add what could only be described as an extraordinary amount of bicarb to a race-day drench.

    he's so good and experienced at tubing, that he couldnt possibly have put that much in its system?

    goodness....therefore he couldnt be found guilty?

    how bout this, sir, you had 12kg of cocaine strapped to your body, boarding a plane. As you are an experienced drug mule, we know you couldnt be that stupid....so we'll let you off!!!!

    a very loose analogy given there is no proof Mark Riley administered the drug whereas the drug mule by having the stuff taped to him is beyond proof

    I find it hard to believe that people on here are so quick to knock the decisions of those most suitably qualified to make them

    I cant believe you are so quick to criticize Della -- surely they have to prove the drug mule taped the drugs to his own body
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