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  • motivatedmotivated    334 posts
    edited March 2016
    You are fining blokes for trying hard....talk about the complete opposite of integrity...

    Daisy Express got hit 1 time too many, jockey got fined, however every time it got hit it responded, 1 less strike means a losing ride.....

    Disgrace to be bowing down to the minority, might as well get rid of the thing altogether nowadays.
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  • RexRex    397 posts
    I wish this rule was in when I got time for not trying.
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  • RIORIO    14,882 posts
    sniper said:

    Feel sorry for Natasha when Ponty and Jarrod Noske get warned or fined nearly every meeting.

    and young Molly Clarke as well
    ColourfulRD said:

    It's ridiculous. Either enforce the rule harsh or scrap it. 2 sets of rules at the moment.

    And that is exactly how the stewards like it..
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  • RIORIO    14,882 posts
    Rex said:

    I wish this rule was in when I got time for not trying.

    When did we have draft horse racing???
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  • ArloArlo    122 posts
    The way to enforce the rule is surely, if the jockey breaks the whip rule and the horse wins, then the horse has the win taken from it and the jockey is fined.
    At the moment the best thing an owner can do is instruct the jockey to break the rule to ensure the horses best prospects, then the owner pays the jockey's fine.
    Three out of five fines were for jockeys on winning horses!!

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  • everreadyeverready    282 posts
    Legless said:

    York 07/03/16

    Race 4.  Apprentice Randy Tan (ALBERTANI) $200 ARR.137A(5)(a)(ii) for using the whip on two additional occasions than permitted prior to the 100m.

    Race 4.  Apprentice Sarah Bonner (STORM MAID) $250 ARR.137A(5)(a)(ii) for using the whip on two additional occasions than permitted prior to the 100m.
    When assessing penalty Stewards took into consideration that Apprentice Bonner had won the race.

    Race 6.  Jockey Stephen Parnham (DAISY EXPRESS) $250 ARR.137A(5)(a)(ii) for using the whip on one additional occasion thanpermitted prior to the 100m.
    When assessing penalty Stewards took into account that his mount had won the race.
     
    Race 7.  Jockey Joseph Azzopardi (SUNSET SUPERMAN) $250 ARR.137A(5)(a)(ii) for using the whip on one additional occasion than permitted prior to the 100m.
    When assessing penalty Stewards took into account that his mount had won the race.

    Race 8.
    Jockey Jarrad Noske (NAHGO)$200 ARR.137A(5)(a)(ii) for using the whip on one additional occasion than permitted prior to the 100m

    Stewards took into account S Bonner won the race !! Fark me Wat was penalty if she got beat ?? How many old horses do u see knock off from the 250 -100 when cant be hit ...hope all the dogoders go big paddocks to house retired race horses !!
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  • VoodooVoodoo    1,238 posts
    Watch Our Waverly Star and Bonecrusher in the Cox....Tell me who would of won with today's whip rules...

    cheers

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  • everreadyeverready    282 posts
    Voodoo said:

    Watch Our Waverly Star and Bonecrusher in the Cox....Tell me who would of won with today's whip rules...

    cheers

    3rd horse 8->

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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    Sunshine Coast R4

    Dead Heat 1st

    Protest - One of the deadheaters V the other - Excessive use of the whip
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    :-O Upheld

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  • GaryHGaryH    1,012 posts
    Legless said:

    :-O Upheld

    The HAD to.  If they hadn't, then the RSPCA would have argued that if they don't improve performance by ANY margin, then don't use them.

    Any margin other then dead heat, no chance....

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  • ColourfulRDColourfulRD    480 posts
    Finally a steward with the courage to make it a simple rule. No grey area. Well done

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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    7,786 posts
    Fifty Shades of Grey, Bay. Chestnut.....
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited March 2016
    Race 4. Apprentice Clinton Johnston-Porter (SHE RULES ALL) $250 under ARR.137A(5)(a)(ii) for using the whip on one additional occasion than permitted prior to the 100m.

    Race 6. Apprentice Randy Tan (FRERE DE FELIX) $250 under ARR.137A(5)(a)(ii) for using the whip on one additional occasion than permitted prior to the 100m.

    Race 8. Jockey Jarrad Noske (YOUNG LIONEL) $750 under ARR.137A(5)(a)(ii) for using the whip on two additional occasions than permitted prior to the 100m.

    Race 8. Jockey Mitchell Pateman (DREAM LIFTER) $300 under ARR.137A(5)(a)(ii) for using the whip on three additional occasions than permitted prior to the 100m.
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  • thefalconthefalcon    19,999 posts
    what a crock of shite...... X(

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  • snipersniper    236 posts
    quick question, does anybody know where the revenue from the whip rule infringements go?
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  • thefalconthefalcon    19,999 posts
    where all other fines go..into revenue....
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  • snipersniper    236 posts
    They would be making a fortune, this wont stop.
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  • ColourfulRDColourfulRD    480 posts
    Xmas bonuses
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  • thefalconthefalcon    19,999 posts
    its peanuts when you consider trainers get fined thousands....when they should serve time....
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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    edited March 2016
    By Adrian Dunn
    FALL out continues from Queensland stewards’ decision to uphold a
    protest after a whip breach at Sunshine Coast last Saturday. Apprentice
    Jye McNeil, riding the Robbie Griffith-trained Deja Blue, who finished
    second, lodged a protest against Lyuba, ridden by apprentice Kyle
    Maskiell, for a breach of the whip rule. Lyuba won by a half neck, but
    Maskiell was found to have used the whip seven times, two more than
    allowed. McNeil told stewards that Maskiell had breached the rules, he
    had abided by them and that Maskiell’s whip breach was the difference
    between his mount winning. Griffiths said Craig Williams advised McNeil
    about Maskiell’s whip use and the apprentice decided to protest. “It’s
    new ground for me, it’s up to you,” Griffiths told Racing Victoria
    chairman of stewards Terry Bailey. After a couple of minutes
    deliberation, the protest was dismissed. Bailey said Lyuba came from
    behind Deja Blue at the 100-metre mark and that the stewards would “not
    be drawing any conclusion” that the whip use by Maskiell had enhanced
    the performance of Lyuba.


    Maskiell was fined $750 for breach of the whip rule.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    ^^Nothing against Craig Williams..outstanding hoop...but in this case he should keep his bib out of it.

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  • ArloArlo    122 posts
    Break the rules and win, this is Australian racing when all is said and done.
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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    Ridersonthestorm33 said:

    ^^Nothing against Craig Williams..outstanding hoop...but in this case he should keep his bib out of it.

    Would think Williams was throwing it up to expose the hypocrisy of the rule

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    ^^Possibly but bear in mind Williams is a great hands and heels jockey...the whip issue will never be a problem for him. Think he was advising McNeil to go for it. Looked at it as another jockey 'dobbing' another one in. Not a good precedent to set. However if he was throwing it up to expose up the hypocrisy of the rule then that's different.

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