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Colonial Quaddie "Who Are We" ?

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The term "colonial bred" is tossed around a fair bit...very hard to define as all standard breds are from imported stock but its generally agreed that "colonial sires" revolve around horses like Globe Derby, Aachen and so on and other early NZ imports featuring Light Brigade, U Scott, Grattan Loyal etc prior to the wholesale importation of large numbers of line bred USA blood like Thor Hanover, Royal Dollar, Dick Adios etc.
Now, these 4 horses are as colonial as Governor Macquarie's kids. All 4 raced almost exclusively in WA barring some occasional forays over east, all 4 raced in the late 60's/70's era, all were multiple feature race/classic winners at Gloucester Park, all were handled by the leading trainer/drivers of the day and they all won a heat of the Interdominion Championship.
Horse 1 was a classic colonial bred of the fading (now dead) Globe Derby line with his sire being a NZ champ....black as soot and possessed of brilliant speed. Country domiciled trainer. Immensely popular classic winning little horse, who of the four, had the most success over east.
Horse 2 was the the toughest of tough mares and on breeding from the now defunct Wrack line, shouldn't have been able to run out of sight. Initially country domiciled. Pacing Cup winner and a fan favourite....a dour stayer with a Kardashian rear end, and like Kim, no oil painting.
Horse 3 was described by his trainer driver, a classics winning WA Pacing Cup winning driver, as being the best horse he ever sat behind and that he was "robbed" of a least placing in the Inters Grand Final and his sire, serving only a handful of mares in his restricted private capacity, boasted an unbelievable strike rate (46 live foals for 32 winners at an average of over $10,000 stakes earned per winner when stakes were very low), being from a very old NZ Stormyway breed. So good was he that he gave horse 1 a head start and a hiding in a WA Sires Produce.
Horse 4 was also a breeding freak and should have, on breeding, been battling to win a maiden in his home town in the Great Southern region. Hailing from a hopeless performing sire, both on track and in the breeding barn (the best that can be said was that he had some Garrison Hanover Jack Potts blood) I was one of his only 10 winners, only 4 of whom broke 2.10. The most handsome of handsome horses who won his biggest feature race for NSW ace Lawrie Moulds.

If all four of them could talk, they would all tell you that "we was robbed, we should have won the Inters Grand Final....and none of them ever did. It's one for us old timers, I know, but a few of the students of GP should nail a couple, if not all.

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    Horse # 1. Royal Force. Miracle Mile winner.

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  • JayJayJayJay    7,677 posts
    Yep, that's the one...by Johnny Globe by Logan Derby by Globe Derby. What a little champ he was...was going to add that his best siring effort was Sinn Fein buy that would have made him a gimme.

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  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    2,849 posts
    Guessing Colour Glo as No 2.

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  • JayJayJayJay    7,677 posts
    Aww, I knew this was too easy haha....yes, by Wrack Again who goes back to Globe Derby. Grand mare who won just about everything in the mid/late 60's and was one of 3 Coulson horses qualified for the 67 Inters GF in which she was involved in an accident.
    The last two horses are a bit more contemporary.
  • VillageKidVillageKid    2,281 posts
    Horse 4- Dont Retreat JJ?
  • JayJayJayJay    7,677 posts
    edited June 2016
    No VK, he was a little bit later was Lawrie Moulds great champ Don't Retreat and he was a NSW horse, although he fits the mould of "colonial bred" for sure. I think he won 4 heats of the Inters all told and 3rd to Carclew and Steelo in Adelaide final in 1976, plus a WA Cup, Victoria Cup etc etc...in fact he won just about everything, great horse.
  • RoyboyRoyboy    22 posts
    Red vicar
  • JayJayJayJay    7,677 posts
    That's the one....I have had very few pre post bets in my life...and not many really big bets but prior to the Queensland Inters, we had a really big bite at Red Vicar at a very generous price. It was, as they say, going to be "a result".of course, its history, he galloped away in the final and stormed home a certainty beaten. What a magnificent horse he was ..by Overdew....out of Bonnies Kay....was racing (badly) at York when Coulson picked him (complete with awful hopple chaffe) and some months later, he lands a big plunge at GP winning a Qualifying Stakes by about 70 yards....beating Charlie Rifici's little mare Brunette.....and that was a "result". Won the Queensland Pacing Championship with Lawrie Moulds on board. One of my all time favourite horses who had the gentlest nature.

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    JJ noticed an old name that rang a bell - Moorillya Lass or Moorilla Lass and thought I remember her. Was she handy ? W. Hayes or driver Wych ring a bell with her. Think a Hayes horse?

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  • JayJayJayJay    7,677 posts
    Yes, Moorilla Lass was a $100k earner who won 14 races for George Kennett, owner trainer of Royal Force....and she was by Royal Force. He wasn't a bad sire Royal Force, a much better record than he was given credit for.

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  • VillageKidVillageKid    2,281 posts
    Horse 3 has me stumped will have a stab in the dark at Local Product?  :-??
  • JayJayJayJay    7,677 posts
    Close VK, close.....Local Product went apex over base in the same Inters Final as horse 3 but he was an NZ import by Local Light for Russell Roberts and Fred back before Fred's famous phone call to come and collect his horses. Horse 4 was by Admiral Way 2.14.1 (by Stormyway) from a U Scott mare, bred and raced in WA....thrashed Royal Force in a lead up race to these Inters after running 3rd to him in the 3yo WA Sires Produce Stakes...and a great 2nd to Wee Cent in the Fremantle Cup. Any help?

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  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    2,849 posts
    JayJay may have already done this one.

    He came from obscurity to win and Inter Dominion but his name does not appear in the record books.

    Owner was reported to be an eccentric type who ran a printing business near the Mount Lawley Subway and rode a push bike to work.
  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    2,849 posts
    Royboy said:

    Red vicar

    JayJay was Red Vicar trained by a Geoff Sherrif when Phil was having a sabbatical courtesy of the stewards at some stage?
  • VillageKidVillageKid    2,281 posts
    JayJay said:

    Close VK, close.....Local Product went apex over base in the same Inters Final as horse 3 but he was an NZ import by Local Light for Russell Roberts and Fred back before Fred's famous phone call to come and collect his horses. Horse 4 was by Admiral Way 2.14.1 (by Stormyway) from a U Scott mare, bred and raced in WA....thrashed Royal Force in a lead up race to these Inters after running 3rd to him in the 3yo WA Sires Produce Stakes...and a great 2nd to Wee Cent in the Fremantle Cup. Any help?

    Argh I pulled the wrong rein literally JJ it must be Haddock.
  • JayJayJayJay    7,677 posts
    Yep, Haddock it is VK....the way that race panned out, had he avoided the smash, Robbie would have been camped right on them and got home over the top...he had a brilliant finish...well, you had to if you could outsprint Royal Force coming from behind. Top horse Haddock, we never saw the best of him as he was retired through injury.
    Yes Chariots, have mentioned the Johnsons (Ethel and Peter lived in Wembley) in past posts and Juniors lead up form prior to Addington...was a stunningly brilliant drive in the final but will leave it at that. There is still a "remembrance" party held in a Christchurch Pub every time the Inters were/are at Addington to celebrate that win...complete with memorabilia, harnessed model horse, race colours, photographs, videos etc and a fine selection on NZ's finest food and wine....by invitation only.
    And Yes, Geoff was "listed' as Red Vicars trainer for a time and took him to Queensland but he "officially" was trained by Vic Murphy for that Interdominion series.

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