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PAULPAUL    2,665 posts
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Formula One championship season begins next weekend with the Australian Grand Prix at Albert Park.

CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON
Mar 20 Albert Park, Australia (Live on FOX/TEN)
Apr 3 Sakhir, Bahrain (FOX)
Apr 17 Shanghai, China (FOX)
May 1 Sochi, Russia (FOX/TEN)
May 15 Catalunya, Spain (FOX)
May 29 Monte Carlo, Monaco (FOX/TEN)
Jun 12 Montreal, Canada (FOX)
Jun 19 Baku, Azerbaijan (FOX/TEN)
Jul 3 Red Bull Ring, Austria (FOX)
Jul 10 Silverstone, Britain (FOX/TEN)
Jul 24 Hungaroring, Hungary (FOX)
Jul 31 Hockenheim, Germany (FOX/TEN)
Aug 28 Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium (FOX)
Sep 4 Monza, Italy (FOX/TEN)
Sep 18 Singapore City, Singapore (FOX)
Oct 2 Sepang, Malaysia (FOX/TEN)
Oct 9 Suzuka, Japan (FOX)
Oct 23 Austin, USA (FOX)
Oct 30 Mexico City, Mexico (FOX/TEN)
Nov 13 Interlagos, Brazil (FOX)
Nov 27 Yas Marina, UAE (FOX/TEN)

DRIVERS/CONSTRUCTORS
MERCEDES BENZ
#6 Nico Rosberg (185 GPs, 14 wins)
#44 Lewis Hamilton (167 GPs, 43 wins)
FERRARI
#5 Sebastian Vettel (158 GPs, 42 wins)
#7 Kimi Raikkonen (232 GPs, 20 wins)
WILLIAMS-MERCEDES BENZ
#19 Felipe Massa (231 GPs, 11 wins)
#77 Valtieri Bottas (57 GPs)
RED BULL-TAG HEUER RENAULT
#3 Daniel Ricciardo (88 GPs, 3 wins)
#26 Daniil Kyvat (38 GPs)
FORCE INDIA-MERCEDES BENZ
#11 Sergio Perez (95 GPs)
#27 Nico Hulkenberg (96 GPs)
RENAULT
#20 Kevin Magnussen (20 GPs)
#30 Jolyon Palmer (debut)
TORO ROSSO-FERRARI
#33 Max Verstappen (19 GPs)
#55 Carlos Sainz Jr (19 GPs)
SAUBER-FERRARI
#9 Marcus Ericsson (35 GPs)
#12 Felipe Nasr (19 GPs)
McLAREN-HONDA
#14 Fernando Alonso (254 GPs, 32 wins)
#22 Jenson Button (287 GPs, 15 wins)
MANOR-MERCEDES BENZ
#88 Rio Haryanto (debut)
#94 Pascal Wehrlein (debut)
HAAS-FERRARI
#8 Romain Grosjean (83 GPs)
#21 Esteban Gutierrez (38 GPs)

STANDINGS
DRIVERS
http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/championship/results/2016-driver-standings.html
CONSTRUCTORS
http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/championship/results/2016-constructor-standings.html
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Not looking forward to winter, but can't wait for the season to start !
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  • PAULPAUL    2,665 posts
    @TheArmchairPunter When only three drivers won races in 2014 (Hamilton 11, Rosberg 5, Ricciardo 3) and in 2015 (Hamilton 10, Rosberg 6, Vettel 3), I agree it would be nice to see a bigger spread of winners in F1, but in reality it's not that unusual to see such few winners in top-level motorsport.

    When you look at the stats, only eight current drivers have won a GP. If you think that's bad, look at the MotoGP stats (see MotoGP 2016 thread) where only five riders have won a MotoGP. Or perhaps try the WRC (World Rally Championship) where only two drivers have won the championship in the past 12 years and they are both Frenchmen called Sebastien (Loeb 2004-12 & Ogier 2013-15).

    For the record, the most different winners in a F1 season was 11 (out of 16 races) in 1982, when Keke Rosberg won the title with only one race win.

    In regards to grand prix economy runs, you do have a good point. It's pretty standard these days for the early race laps (when the cars have up to 100kg of fuel) to be up to 8-9 seconds slower than qualifying laps. In some cases, the GP2 cars would lap faster. When you look at the lap records at most classic circuits, most were set in 2004. Different regulations of course (i.e. V10 engines with no rev limits, more downforce, refuelling during the race).

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  • PAULPAUL    2,665 posts
    edited March 2016
    DRIVERS CHAMPIONSHIP
    (Market guide via TABtouch)

    $1.50 Hamilton
    $3.50 Rosberg
    $5 Vettel
    $9 Raikkonen
    $21 Bottas, Massa
    $31 Ricciardo, Kyvat and 4 others

    Interesting, they have Jenson Button as the rank outsider at $201, rougher than both the Manor drivers (Haryanto and Wehrlein).

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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    That's why you have to have Foxtel, and the UK Sky coverage.
    The behind the scenes, practice session, qualifying, pit lane, politics action is where most of the interest is.
    The actual race is just an after thought.

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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    edited March 2016
    He can drive, but jeez that's some serious fashion going on right there!


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  • PAULPAUL    2,665 posts
    edited March 2016
    Changes to qualifying for this season.

    The three-session knockout system remains, but instead of a specified number of drivers being eliminated after set time periods, the clock will soon start ticking during each session.

    Q1 will run for 16 minutes. After seven of them the current slowest car will be eliminated. This process will repeat every 90 seconds until 15 cars are left.

    After a break they will proceed to Q2, which will last for 15 minutes, and after six minutes the 90-second elimination periods will start again until only eight cars are left.

    After another break Q3 will then see all eight running, but after five minutes six further cars will be eliminated over 90-second periods until only two cars are left in a head-to-head fight for pole.

    http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/latest/features/2016/3/the-2016-season-preview---new-rules--teams--drivers---races.html
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Ahhhh, from Round 1 now.
    They had mentioned introducing it after 3 rounds or so.
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Love Gilly, but stick to cricket - please.
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  • PAULPAUL    2,665 posts
    edited March 2016
    No real surprises in qualifying, Mercedes still having about half-a-second in hand over the Ferraris in qualifying. The battle behind the top-4 looks good with Williams, Red Bull, Toro Rosso and Force India all within a couple of tenths of each other.

    The elimination process worked as many of the F1 pundits expected, seemed to worked well in Q1, but in Q2 & Q3 there were no cars circulating in the last couple of minutes. Especially Q3, four minutes to go and all laps were done.

    I think the concept is alright in principle but why not just have one large session with eliminations every two minutes or so (after 10 minutes) until there are three drivers left, then they have a one lap shoot-out for pole.

    The 90-second intervals seemed a bit too short (and will be for longer circuits like Spa, Silverstone and Singapore), it doesn't seem to give anyone enough time to change tactics or respond. Most of the time, the driver in the 'danger zone' was already in the pits and basically resigned to being knocked out of qualifying.

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  • PAULPAUL    2,665 posts
    At least made for an interesting race once the Ferraris jumped the Mercedes at the start, however in the end the Mercedes had sufficient pace with the medium tyre to be able to have one less pit stop to finish 1-2.

    Ricciardo was 'best in class' finishing half-a-minute ahead of Massa. Nice debut for Haas with Grosjean finishing sixth. More importantly, good to see Alonso walk away from his massive crash at Turn 3.

    http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/latest/headlines/2016/3/alonso-walks-away-from-huge-crash-in-australia.html

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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    RIC fastest lap of the day by more than a second.
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  • PAULPAUL    2,665 posts
    Probably helps he was the only one on Super-Softs in the last segment of the race. Apart from Vettel on Softs, everyone else in the top 10 were on Mediums. He was flying in that last segment of the race though, not only passing Massa after his 2nd stop but then finishing 34 seconds ahead of him by race end.
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Yep, super softs on with lighter fuel load.
    Shows what a diff between qualifying set up / speed and race.
    More than 5 seconds !!!

    I'll tell you how to fix qualifying................make them run under race loads / conditions.
    Can't change tyres / refuel for whole of qualifying.
    That will sort it out.
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    As for RB though, and also Ferrari - at least their race pace seems a lot clser to Merc than last season.
    If not Q pace.
    But Sunday is what matters................
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts

    Both Mercedes and Ferrari are keen on luring Daniel Ricciardo from Red Bull, according to Helmut Marko.

    The Red Bull team advisor even claims that the Scuderia are more interested in the Australian, who impressed with a fourth-place finish at his home grand prix on Sunday, than highly-rated teenager Max Verstappen.

    "Ferrari are much more interested in Ricciardo than Verstappen," Marko is quoted by Auto Motor und Sport.

    And he also told Austrian broadcaster Servus TV: "The red and the silver teams are knocking."

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  • PAULPAUL    2,665 posts
    Alonso to sit out Bahrain GP on medical grounds.  Revealed in the press conference that he suffered fractured ribs and a collapsed lung in the accident from Melbourne.  May also miss the Chinese GP in a fortnight's time.  McLaren reserve driver, Stoffel Vandoorne will take his place in Bahrain.


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  • PAULPAUL    2,665 posts
    That makes it five wins in a row for Rosberg. Now equals Stirling Moss for the most career wins by a non-champion (16) and is now equal-16th of all-time in career wins.

    Raikkonen finished second, Hamilton third (after being partially turned around at the first corner by Bottas). Ricciardo finished fourth, 'best in class' again, 15.8 seconds ahead of Grosjean in the Haas-Ferrari. Vandoorne scored a point on debut for McLaren-Honda, finishing tenth. Vettel's race ended on the formation lap with an engine problem.

    Drivers' Championship:
    Rosberg 50, Hamilton 33, Ricciardo 24, Raikkonen 18, Grosjean 18, Vettel 15.

    Constructors' Championship:
    Mercedes 83, Ferrari 33, Red Bull 30, Williams 20, Haas 18.

    http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/latest/headlines/2016/4/rosberg-makes-it-five-in-a-row-after-dramatic-bahrain-race.html
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  • PAULPAUL    2,665 posts
    For China qualifying, Hamilton will get a five-place grid penalty for a gearbox change.

    http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/latest/headlines/2016/4/hamilton-china-grid-penalty-gearbox-change.html
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  • PAULPAUL    2,665 posts
    edited May 2016
    Rosberg wins in Shanghai and again tonight in Sochi. (:|
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    WTF were Red Bull doing putting on Mediums ?????????????
    I saw a Manor overtake RIC !!!!!! 
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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    this sport has well and truly lost me as a viewer. Its like watching Mercedes take on Holden Camira's...............................................
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    That track last night was the worst for the season re Merc dominance.
    A "power" track.

    Overall the racing is MUCH closer this season - from top to bottom.
    eg Last season Manor were 4-6 secs a lap slower and finishing races 4 or 5 laps down.
    This year they're 2 secs slower (than Merc) and only getting lapped once - and not even necessarily finishing last !


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  • PAULPAUL    2,665 posts
    edited May 2016
    Tivers said:

    WTF were Red Bull doing putting on Mediums ?????????????

    I saw a Manor overtake RIC !!!!!! 
    In hindsight, a poor decision by Red Bull to run the Mediums, was always going to be quicker to run a two-stop strategy running the Softs after the lap one dramas.  Ended up costing Ricciardo a likely sixth place finish.  Although Kyvat's turn 2 & 3 assault on Vettel obviously ruined any chances of a better result, although looking at Red Bull's race pace, doubt he would have finished much higher than fifth even without all the dramas, which is what Ricciardo predicted in the pre-race interview.
    Tivers said:

    Overall the racing is MUCH closer this season - from top to bottom.
    eg Last season Manor were 4-6 secs a lap slower and finishing races 4 or 5 laps down.
    This year they're 2 secs slower (than Merc) and only getting lapped once - and not even necessarily finishing last !
    Agree, the racing is generally closer this year, although last night's race probably wasn't a great example, with only five cars finishing on the lead lap.  The Manors of Wehrlein & Haryanto both out-qualified Ericsson in the Sauber at Sochi.  A lot of Manor's improvement this year has to do with the placement of Wehrlein in the team (a Mercedes contracted driver who won the DTM championship last year - German Touring Cars).  The Manors are running a Mercedes engine this year (just without the latest token developments). 
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Yeah, was interesting to hear Toto's comments last night re "proper" (merit) drivers now replacing bought drives, with the major teams now placing top upcoming drivers in to these junior teams.

    Red Bull race pace was fine, good in fact - when running on softs.
    RIC was chewing up the gaps late in the race.
    Couple more laps and he's in the points.
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  • PAULPAUL    2,665 posts
    Red Bull do a switcheroo for the Spanish GP, Verstappen replacing Kyvat.
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Welcome to last week Paul :)

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  • PAULPAUL    2,665 posts
    edited May 2016
    Quite well aware that it wasn't "breaking news", thought I'd post about it to see if anyone had any opinion about the driver swap ahead of the GP this weekend, as it is unusual for a direct driver swap to occur mid-season.

    Drivers getting the sack during the season happens from time-to-time but to be directly swapped over, admittedly in this case just from one Red Bull team to the other one, doesn't happen too often mid-season.

    Since watching F1 as a young tacker back in 1986, I can't recall too many times where drivers have directly swapped seats mid-season. Some examples are:
    Monza 1991 - Roberto Moreno (Benetton) swapped seats with Michael Schumacher (Jordan) after Schumacher's debut race in Spa;
    Jerez 1994 - Johnny Herbert (Lotus) swapped seats with Eric Bernard (Ligier) for one race before Herbert got subbed into Benetton;
    Hungary 2001 - Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan) swapped seats with Jean Alesi (Prost).
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    edited May 2016
    Red Bull is a different beast.
    As is Helmut Marko
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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    Red bull must be happy Dan got the busted tyre, saves them alot of explaining. I will call it as i see it. Daniel pretty much got screwed.
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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    Very proud of daniel. "Ive been screwed 2 races in a row". Called it as it was! He just showed he wont take this shit lying down!
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