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Pinjarra Cup 6/3

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JayJayJayJay    8,624 posts
Harness & Greyhounds
The $50k Pinjarra Cup field looks better than okay.....almost zero promotion of the event that I have seen....in stark contrast to the great build up for the Country Cups circuit in Victoria, ours seem to be a national secret.
Time honored race with past winners including Sultana  Pop Johnson(1958), Eaton Hall Leo keys (1964), Fortress Rod Starkie (1969), Gallant Ribbon Ray Grantham (1970), No Dill George James 1971, Forbes Adios Bernie Cushing 1972, Wee cent Lyle Lindau 1974, Johnny Toledo Jim Schrader 1977,Windy Jean Ray Grantham 1978 Artisan Kevin Batt 1979, Pallaton Chris Lewis 1980, Mint Condition Lyle Lindau 1981, Butterfly Trunkey John Graham 1984 (the first $10k Cup), Lincoln Storm Trevor Warwick in 1986 and 1987, Prince Palladin for George and G.D.Harper in 1990,Souther Knight Boof Anderson 1994, Allwoods Chief Justin Warwick 1997, Tabaret Greg Kersley1998, Talladega Chris Lewis 2001, Shardons Aflyin Grant Williams 2006 (the first $20k Cup), Mr Yankee Ryan Bell 2008 (the first $30k Cup), Precious Dylan Grant Williams 2010, Ima Rocket Star Colin Brown 2013 (the first $40k Cup) and I'm The Mighty Quinn Gary Hall Jnr 2014 (the first $50k cup) with David Hercules and Tricky Styx rounding out the last two years. Hats off to the Pinjarra Club for building the profile of this race with an honor roll of great quality.

This years PBD $50k race has up and comers Master Jaxon from gate 1, Cut For An Ace (2), Better Reward (5), American Boy from inside the second line (8), I'm Full of Excuses chasing a 4th Country Cup this season (10) good ol Shardons Rocket having start number 3,504 from 11 and the star of the show Our Jimmy Johnson from outside the second row(12). Stayers distance of 2700m....well worth heading on course for a look. Hope its not too hot.
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  • VillageKidVillageKid    2,358 posts
    It is amazing when you look back at those past winners and their trainer/drivers JJ a who's who of stars over the years not too mention that a few of them have gone on to dominate the local gallops scene too.
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  • JayJayJayJay    8,624 posts
    The list of place getters over the years also strikes a good pose....Kolworth 1961, Nookenburra 1967, Master Clan 1970, James Eden 1972, one of my old favourites and a great stayer Coolup Way from 36 yards in 1973, Royal Vance (considered a speedy miler by some) from 24 yards over 2800m 1974, Ray Sweetman's Wayamba and Thor Rise in 1976 and 1978, Indian Chant 1980, Sinn Fein 1986, Jay Bees Fella 1988, Zakara 1992, Flashing Star 1994, Admirals Avenue 1998, Lombo Pocket Watch 2012 and Our Jimmy Johnson in 2015. You win this race, you have earned it.
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  • curmudgeoncurmudgeon    2,417 posts
    edited March 2017
    Unfortunately our country clubs are left to row there own boat in terms of a cohesive overarching promotion of their cup days as a series of events from RWWA. Bye and large they(the clubs individually) do a fantastic job for their members and the raceday attendees.
    Then again...they may be too busy at HQ shoveling money left over from unissued Westbred funds, abandoned meetings and other sundries into the Interdom funding black hole to look up and smell the promotional roses due our premier grassroots days ?

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,951 posts
    edited March 2017
    Good old Indian Chant vividly remember being at GP and seeing him win a good race when he was about 13 or 14 with FR Kersley in the spider. Not considered one of the the all time greats Indian Chant but was pretty dam handy just the same.

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,951 posts
    Just just just remember the name Coolup Way also another interesting name that has similar recall is Forbes Adios...know nothing much about them...but the names have never left me...which says something about the pacers from that era.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,951 posts
    edited March 2017
    Wayamba rings a bell but just can't place Thor Rise he's one that has left the memory bank.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,951 posts
    edited March 2017
    Who had Flashing Star JJ ? Struck a real purple patch of form I think.
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  • mattmatt    72 posts
    Colin Cummings had flashing and Hilarion star

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  • JayJayJayJay    8,624 posts
    In order, old Indian Chant foaled in 1973 down at Wagin for the Ward family of Color Glo fame...home bred by Indian Lake from Wexford Lass, a U Scott mare, a locally bred country horse, an almost extinct species since rationalisation. Was a durable warrior who won 2 heats of the Inters in Rhetts Law's year 1982, won a heat of the Pacing Cup  in 1981, the Harvey Cup 1980, FFA in 1981,  won the 2 mile Easter Cup in 1981, 2nds in the Bunbury Cup, Pinjarra Cup, Easter Cup (1980), Media Cup, 3rd's in the Tatts Cup, BOTRA Cup and Easter Cup. Can't find him winning at 13 or 14 but definitely at 11 but he banked $106k when a dollar was a dollar.
    Coolup Way was bred by Harry Bele, being by his great non public stallion Admiral Way out of prolific broodmare Wilvetta (who won the Great Southern Derby and a Kellerberrin Cup), dam of Placid Way, Each Way etc (6 others as well) ...all $100k plus earners in the 70's. and all trained and driven by Laurie Robinson. Tough and durable and could produce a whirlwind finish like few others. Stormed home from last to win a Pacing Cup heat one night at rich odds, and after reaching fast class, went to the USA where he raced successfully for years.
    Wayamba was a big strong Trainer Hanover horse that Ray Sweetman got over from Victoria where he was palced 3rd in the 1973 Vic Sires produce to Bay Chapel. He was a good Free For All horse that won the Bunbury Cup in 1976 and ran 3rd to Young Robbie in the 1976 Easter Cup and 3rd to Aboukir in the 1976 Brennan Cup.
    Thor Rise was a Thor Hanover import from NSW, a sub 2 minute horse with $139k in stakes that won the 1978 Easter Cup over 2 miles and I think he ended up in the USA.
    Flashing Star was from pacing royalty by Northern Lights from the Romeo Hanover mare Summer Honey and was a brother to Hilarion Star, Sassie Brassy et al from an incredible breeding line harking back to the afire mentioned Admiral Way....pedigree littered with black type, Shelly Lee and dozens of other high quality winners. $350k in stakes from 23 wins, 32 placings in only the best of company for the Col Cummins/Lewis (primarily) combination (although others such as Lou Austin also won on him, in Austins case a Pacing Cup prleude. Won as a 2yo, 2nd to Chandon in the Sales Classic, won the 3YO Triple Crown, the Western Gateway Pace,  the Sires Produce, the Golden Nugget, the Mt Eden Sprint, FFA's and heats of the Pacing Cup and placed behind Norms Daughter and Mon Poppy Day  in races like the 4YO Championship, the Mt Eden Mile and the FTC Flying Mile. His "patch of form" lasted for several years but ultimately ended up running around fairly unsuccessfully in SA claimers at Globe Derby Park. He ran a close 5th to Golden Reign at Moonee Valley in the Australian Derby, the same year that Chandon ran last, at his only venture east when trained by Cummins.

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  • curmudgeoncurmudgeon    2,417 posts
    I had 20 bucks straight out Aboukir in that Brennan Cup at odds of 66 to 1 from memory. A perennial 4th placegetter he got the luck he required that night ....

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  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    3,025 posts
    Aboukir bred by Bob and Bill Godecke and trained by older brother Fred.

    Driven by both Fred Snr and Fred Jnr.

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  • VillageKidVillageKid    2,358 posts
    Ridersonthestorm33 said:

    Good old Indian Chant vividly remember being at GP and seeing him win a good race when he was about 13 or 14 with FR Kersley in the spider. Not considered one of the the all time greats Indian Chant but was pretty dam handy just the same.

    I loved Indian Chant as a young tacker as well Riders a great old FFA warrior in the 80s. 
    I reckon you might be on the mark I vaguely remember him winning a claimer on a Monday night as a 12yo around 1986/87 and then FRK retired him pretty much straight after.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,951 posts
    edited March 2017
    Yes for sure VK he could have been about 11 or 12 when saw him win. Think I was on too , that helped make the memory a good one. Recall a great George Grljusich race call when he won. Gave him plenty of praise. George must have been on too!
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  • JayJayJayJay    8,624 posts
    Aboukir was Bill Godecke's ...and Bill trained him and  drove him almost exclusively and was certainly on him when he won the Brennan Cup but Fred Godecke did win the Navy Cup on him. A little horse but a very good little horse. He was no breeding fluke either, being by Renaud from a mare they got from the Dorman brothers called Minding who proved to be an absolute broodmare gem. Minding was a sister to the high class horse Mercedes who barring injury could have been anything, and also Cliff Clarke's Watty Oro and a promising type called Stuart Henry. The Godeckes used to share their horses.....Bob had Fastease and Omista, Fred had Red Monaro, Cornish Rogue etc. I reckon one of their potentially best horses was a stunner called Suvlac who had shocking legs and a very short career. But boy, could he run. FRK got hime home one night when he broke down in running, a remarkable piece of horsemanship that night with a horse on really only 3 legs. I don't think he raced again.

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  • JayJayJayJay    8,624 posts
    Yes, last win of Indian Chant as a 12 year old in a claimer.

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  • VillageKidVillageKid    2,358 posts
    JayJay said:

    Yes, last win of Indian Chant as a 12 year old in a claimer.

    Cheers JJ.
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  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    3,025 posts
    Very aggressive drive there by Ashleigh Markham on White Eagle.

    All he did was ensure that none off the leading three had any chance.

    Did get a QDT.
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  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    3,025 posts
    Successful plunge horse Limestone Bay was drawn with a chance to lead again today but maintained its ordinary form since its win with little or no support again.

    Skippy Rascal was the unknown factor as it had virtually taken no part in any race in WA 
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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,341 posts
    Of the listed winners - and thanks for the post /article Jay Jay  ( if the brains at WATA - well if they had any - you would be on the payroll - part time - writing those interesting pieces ) i still shake my head with disbelief - in the improvement the 94 winner under J Warwick

    Im pretty sure the late Barry Alford - Chris father trained it  - or was it GA Lang - it was one of the 2 - it was just a horse in Vic - but improved out of sight when it came West . I think under Warwick it might have even won a Hunter Cup - or run 2nd

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  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    3,025 posts
    Impressive win by Full of Excuses in the Cup.

    I backed American Boy for a place and if wasn't for a great drive by Clinton Hall I would not have collected. Gave it every mortal chance.
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  • OffthebitOffthebit    617 posts
    Lewis just reminded us all again why he is the best in the west. While most of his dangers were pushing the button to early, Lewis was sitting back in the field with a grin like a cheshire cat.

    Patience is a virtue....

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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts

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  • JayJayJayJay    8,624 posts
    Allwoods Chief Chariots, was 1997 at Pinjarra.....my error the back to front way I dated them. 100% agree, he made vast improvement in WA and you only had to walk to the letterbox to hear a "conspiracy" theory back then. If Allwoods could only talk, there would be a hell of a book in him. He never won or was placed in a Hunter Cup or Vic Cup, a 5th was his best in the Hunter Cup, his second attempt he ran last to Paris Affair, who was hardly a house hold name.
    He started racing in outer country tracks for Ken Smith in 1993, and was later taken over by Barry Alford and Gavan Lang. He won 10 of his first 18 starts but won nothing, winning at Young, Wagga, Cowra, Canberra, Leeton, Cootamundra, Eugowra etc but he did run 4th to Golden Reign in the 3YO Sires Final at MV. He picked up a few more wins, a prelude of the 4YO Sires stakes for G.Lang. He then appeared in SA, 8 starts, no wins 4 placings for ribbons and hot dog vouchers but disappeared for 28 months - from June 11 1994  until  March 26 1996. He resumed for 1 win, 1 place and 8 unplaced runs before going back to SA for 1 win, 1 placing and 6 unplaced runs,his  last run being on August 17, 1996. He then headed West with a record of 75 starts for 16 wins, 23 places and a workman like $61,970 after 3 seasons of fairly moderate racing. In his first season in WA starting October 11, 1996, he progressed to open class with 11 wins, 11 places and just 5 unplaced runs winning FFA's and the 1997 August Cup. After winning at GP November 1997, he slipped over to MV, won the $40k Legends Mile and slipped back home the next week to win at GP again.He finished 3rd to Our Sir Vancelot in the Pacing Cup, took in the Hobart Inters with a 2nd in a heat, ran 6th in the Vic Cup, 5th in the Hunter Cup, 4th in the APC at Newcastle, having won a prelude of the Pacing Cup, the Harvey Cup and the Stratton Cup before that. He took out the Easter Cup in April 1998 and won the $50k Celebrity mile leading into the 1998 Pacing Cup. He ran 2nd to Ted Barry in the Freo Cup and 3rd to Saab in that famous Pacing Cup where the ability to swim was an asset.  He then went east, running last in the Hunter Cup to Paris Affair, came home, won a 2nd Harvey Cup and won a couple more FFA's through the season. 11th to Admirals Avenue in the 2000 Pacing Cup, 10th to Golden Gears in the Freo Cup followed along with 3 minor wins , 10 placings but also 10 unplaced runs. His last win was May 12 2000, a $14.5k FFA at GP. From October 2000 to June 2002, he never raced but reappeared for 4 runs in Country Victoria, all unplaced before he was retired. For Warwick, he had 82 starts, 24 wins, 19 placings and very nearly $400k in stakes. Amazing improvement for this horse once he found some sunshine way out west.Final record was 161 starts, 40 wins, 49 places, $466k and a 1.54.4 life time record....and he had nearly 4 years away from racing.

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  • JayJayJayJay    8,624 posts
    Enough cups for a tea party for Full Of Excuses...Kalgoorlie, Northam, York and Pinjarra all in the one season. Great training and driving performance, no doubt the very pro-active and country sensitive journo's at the West will already have the article penned for publishing in the morning, giving both horse, driver, trainer and the Club/Sponsor who put on a $50k race, due credit.

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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,341 posts
    JayJay said:

    Enough cups for a tea party for Full Of Excuses...Kalgoorlie, Northam, York and Pinjarra all in the one season. Great training and driving performance, no doubt the very pro-active and country sensitive journo's at the West will already have the article penned for publishing in the morning, giving both horse, driver, trainer and the Club/Sponsor who put on a $50k race, due credit.

    Thanks for that Jay Jay - i wonder what happened in SA - must not have liked the dump

    The only thing i will say ( re the vast improvement when he came to WA ) was like you say - he did run 3rd to Golden Reign in a 3yo Sires Final - and won a 4yo Sire Prelude - there was some talent there - he was a sit sprinter - and looked to be a promising young horse - but then just lost form for about 3 years

    Won 400k under Warwicks care - incredible - and as you have outlined - a very impressive racing record in the West
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,951 posts
    edited March 2017
    Would enjoy listening to Fred Kersley reflect on some of the ones he had and his opinion of them , mostly those warriors like Indian Chant , Gap Road , Rite and others like Local Product , Velvet Prince , James Eden and one of my very old favourites Stichintime. Am sure he could still give a good rundown on all of them.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,951 posts
    Not taking anything away from Superimposed today a good effort however the of lack mid race pressure applied by Ideal Tyson was surprising :-??
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  • JayJayJayJay    8,624 posts
    edited March 2017
    Riders, you would be there a while if FRK opened up but Stitchintime was Fred Snr. Below is a list of the Metro feature winners he drove...not necessarily trained...but drove...62 different horses in no particular order and most to (very) multiple wins.

    Tabaret, Ritual, Nautilus, Bellagena, Boxer Jim, Placid Ark, Point of Order, Alladins Lamp, Nip N Dale, Neeron Boy, Nixon Adios, Kiwi Raider, Pure Steel, James eden, Abenteur, Indian Chant, Red Vicar, Benatar Star, Palais Princess, Justaboyden, Coneeda, Shakin Stevens, Jack Morris, Raceaway Two, Gap Road, Graduate Boy, Rite, Zaruma, Binshaw, Prince Palladin, Parking, Franco Seven, Nero's Idol, Classic Garry, Local Product, James Eden, Annas Ann, Ex Adios, Shagrim, Beau Corse, Lively Medley, Salinger, Masterclass, Pro Armbro, Chandon, Hilarion Star, Global Force, Countess Gina, Capriciossa, Wannerie, Swift Judge, Taipan Trunkey, Gold Ease, Lumber Leon, Scocia's Return, Lying Nymph, Cams legend, Paavo, Don Athaldo, Beau Travis, Velvet Prince, Screaming Eagle and Typhson.

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,951 posts
    Nautilus - Roy Annear owned ? Can see that horse in the South Fremantle reverse colours.
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  • VillageKidVillageKid    2,358 posts
    Gee there are some ripper names there JJ.
    Paavo was one who looked like being anything as a juvenile (won about his first dozen races from memory) but I think he may have been struck down by injury just as he made fast class company?
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