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detonator

Watched RTB's press conference. If he is not the most obnoxious man in the AFL, I don't know who is.
This is why the Dockers "PR" machine must cringe whenever RTB is in front of the mike. To say he doesn't read the West "only the Australian and the Financial Review" because the room full of the "West Australian" journo's have an agenda against him is providing more ammo to the print media.
And when asked about is it their best win ? he says replies it is all about growth and not about the week to week blah blah. Well let me tell you this RTB.
The week to week is what gets you into finals. Last week your team was pathetic. Against the Eagles your team was pathetic.
But you just run with the sporadic "good" games and keep your frustrated success hungry fans starving Ross. Life goes on with more of the same. Haha.

detonator

saxonsaxoff said:

detonator said:

saxonsaxoff said:

brady said:

saxonsaxoff said:

Had no issue with him seeing it out before the win. We have improved on last year and if not for injuries would be playing finals this year.

Every Team has injuries
Weak excuse !

Never seen Hayden Ballantyne play Ruck either ?? What's your point ??
Maybe the Eagles have the depth or are not desperate enough to have Masten play FF.

Take JK, Darling, Allen, unamed 4th that hasnt played and Hurn or McGovern out amd then talk to me.

surely you are not comparing your injured players to JK, Darling, Allen, Hurn and McGovern ???
I will give you Pearce, but the rest ???

Its the fact they are all out that makes a difference. Who is the eagles mundy equivalent, masten? Ever seen him play full forward. 

lo

detonator

saxonsaxoff said:

detonator said:

saxonsaxoff said:

brady said:

saxonsaxoff said:

Had no issue with him seeing it out before the win. We have improved on last year and if not for injuries would be playing finals this year.

Every Team has injuries
Weak excuse !

Take JK, Darling, Allen, unamed 4th that hasnt played and Hurn or McGovern out amd then talk to me.

surely you are not comparing your injured players to JK, Darling, Allen, Hurn and McGovern ???
I will give you Pearce, but the rest ???

Its the fact they are all out that makes a difference. Who is the eagles mundy equivalent, masten? Ever seen him play full forward. 

lo

Have never seen Hayden Ballantyne play ruck either. What's your point ??
Eagles have too much depth and are not desperate enough to put Masten FF.

spinking

Well done Freo

RIO

saxonsaxoff said:

detonator said:

saxonsaxoff said:

brady said:

saxonsaxoff said:

Had no issue with him seeing it out before the win. We have improved on last year and if not for injuries would be playing finals this year.

Every Team has injuries
Weak excuse !

Take JK, Darling, Allen, unamed 4th that hasnt played and Hurn or McGovern out amd then talk to me.

surely you are not comparing your injured players to JK, Darling, Allen, Hurn and McGovern ???
I will give you Pearce, but the rest ???

Its the fact they are all out that makes a difference. Who is the eagles mundy equivalent, masten? Ever seen him play full forward. 

lo

Mundy is a beast and the Weagles dont have an equivalent.....Maybe Cripps and De Goey are the similar in the comp. The closest we have is probably Yeo, and i think he has played Full forward, Full back and most postilions in between.

Mundy playing forward is similar to having a 19yr old kid who is about 195cm, in his first season playing in the Ruck all season. Freo doesn't have the depth to cover injuries. You cant get to finals with a good 15 players.

Congrats to Freo yesterday, the players stood up and played a really tough brand of footy on their terms...I've been saying for a few years, they have the players, and the problem with the club is further up the line......Yesterday was proof of that in my opinion.

detonator

Did I hear correctly on channel seven tonight that Steve Rosich has categorically come out and said that RTB will be coaching Fremantle next year ???
A week is a long time in football :-B

Chariotsonfire

No breaking news there. After all he is contracted until the end of 2020. What happens after that is anyone's guess.

detonator

Any thoughts on here from Dockers supporters why your membership numbers have bucked the AFL trend and gone backwards this season ?

RIO

detonator said:

Any thoughts on here from Dockers supporters why your membership numbers have bucked the AFL trend and gone backwards this season ?

Rather ironic to read that the dockers fell the most of any club, while the weagels rose greater than any club.

Then again i think any club that has just won a premiership woudl expect a spike in their memeberships

JayJay

"Membership" figures are one of the most meaningless stats ever concocted....membership of what?.....its just a vehicle for getting access to tickets and a good seat. "Membership" of a club implies you have some voting franchise, a "club" to go to with like minded members.....it truly is a fake title for a non existent entity, complete and utter humbug and a sham in the extreme on what was once the peoples game.

detonator

RIO said:

detonator said:

Any thoughts on here from Dockers supporters why your membership numbers have bucked the AFL trend and gone backwards this season ?

Rather ironic to read that the dockers fell the most of any club, while the weagels rose greater than any club.

Then again i think any club that has just won a premiership woudl expect a spike in their memeberships

Rubbing salt into the Dockers wounds Rio. =D>
With both Hill boys leaving the club at the end of the year and RTB confirmed as their coach again next year not sure there will be a spike in memberships in 2020.
Scott Gooch was quoted in today's paper that they were putting plans in place to address the membership decline. To me this would be offering cheap memberships, 3 game cheap packages etc.
Band aid solutions in my opinion.
You have played the admin card Rio. I have played the coach card. Club needs a major cleanout of both and then you may see an upward curve.
Otherwise it will be more of the same.

saxonsaxoff

Fremantle avg home attendance is slightly up on last year and the eagles have plateued. So membership doesn't tell the real story. Any reason why weagles can't fill that stadium every week or are their supporters just keyboard warriors?

detonator

saxonsaxoff said:

Fremantle avg home attendance is slightly up on last year and the eagles have plateued. So membership doesn't tell the real story. Any reason why weagles can't fill that stadium every week or are their supporters just keyboard warriors?

I accept the membership is not the be all and end unless you are in W.A or S.A.

Eagles buy memberships because if you don`t you don`t get a seat at Optus.

Fremantle don`t have to buy memberships because there is always vacant decent seats.

My colleague at work had a Docker membership at Subiaco and then continued on to Optus at avg $55.00 per seat. When fellow Dockers supporters (non members) were buying tickets on the day for $30.00 and sitting him next to him, he said stuff this and did not renew his membership for this year

I would assume the crows supporters have the same seat shortage in Adelaide as Eagles members.

I am assuming a membership in Melbourne is about a quarter of the cost of a W.A membership because seat availability is not a problem.

But getting back to Freo, game style is turning a lot of people off.

In terms of Eagles not filling the stadium. I think you would be amazed of how many country people are members who have gone to games year after year religiously. Possibly a lot of the seats are there`s who have not bothered to attend.

Eagles avg home attendance in a 60,000 seat stadium is probably around 53,000. Which means there is approx. 88% filled.

Richmond with 100,000 members play at the G with 100,000 capacity.

I reckon the avg home game attendance for Tigers would be  60,000 which means 60% seats filled.

So Eagles doing pretty well I reckon compared to your mob and a lot of the big guns in the AFL.

Oh and I am a member and I go to every home game.

Tivers

Think you're right there Det.

No point in being a Freo season ticket holder (Yes, I refuse to say "member" as well - it's not a club) as you can just rock up, without commitment, and generally get in cheaper anyway.

WC different as they go closer ot filling the stadium.

Richmond (103,000 actual members) you basically have to be a member to get in to the bigger games (v Coll, Ess Etc).

I'm a (legit) member, but don't go to games (for obvious reasons - long way to travel every second week) but pay my membership regardless as support for the Club. (that's real club membership, not season ticket holder).

saxonsaxoff

My point is based on the number of supporters freo have (around half that of west coast) they get quite a high attendance at games. Eagles have capacity membership plus a waiting list plus won the flag last year so I would have expected that % filled to be higher.

detonator

Tivers said:

Think you're right there Det.

No point in being a Freo season ticket holder (Yes, I refuse to say "member" as well - it's not a club) as you can just rock up, without commitment, and generally get in cheaper anyway.

WC different as they go closer ot filling the stadium.

Richmond (103,000 actual members) you basically have to be a member to get in to the bigger games (v Coll, Ess Etc).

I'm a (legit) member, but don't go to games (for obvious reasons - long way to travel every second week) but pay my membership regardless as support for the Club. (that's real club membership, not season ticket holder).

Also the big ticket item is the finals and in particular Grand Final.
I went into the ballot last year as a member and got a GF ticket as one of the competing teams.
If I was interstate I would buy an interstate membetship. Get the scarf and or beanie and a bumper sticker. Financially support your club.

Nevershowsurprise

detonator said:

saxonsaxoff said:

Fremantle avg home attendance is slightly up on last year and the eagles have plateued. So membership doesn't tell the real story. Any reason why weagles can't fill that stadium every week or are their supporters just keyboard warriors?

I accept the membership is not the be all and end unless you are in W.A or S.A.

Eagles buy memberships because if you don`t you don`t get a seat at Optus.

Fremantle don`t have to buy memberships because there is always vacant decent seats.

My colleague at work had a Docker membership at Subiaco and then continued on to Optus at avg $55.00 per seat. When fellow Dockers supporters (non members) were buying tickets on the day for $30.00 and sitting him next to him, he said stuff this and did not renew his membership for this year

I would assume the crows supporters have the same seat shortage in Adelaide as Eagles members.

I am assuming a membership in Melbourne is about a quarter of the cost of a W.A membership because seat availability is not a problem.

But getting back to Freo, game style is turning a lot of people off.

In terms of Eagles not filling the stadium. I think you would be amazed of how many country people are members who have gone to games year after year religiously. Possibly a lot of the seats are there`s who have not bothered to attend.

Eagles avg home attendance in a 60,000 seat stadium is probably around 53,000. Which means there is approx. 88% filled.

Richmond with 100,000 members play at the G with 100,000 capacity.

I reckon the avg home game attendance for Tigers would be  60,000 which means 60% seats filled.

So Eagles doing pretty well I reckon compared to your mob and a lot of the big guns in the AFL.

Oh and I am a member and I go to every home game.

Det, your logic that Richmond members have a crack at a 100,000 seat stadium is incorrect.
About 45% of the MCG is reserved for MCC and AFL members, throw in corporate seats and away team special member allocation, the number is less than half what you stated.

Tivers

Yep, there's different levels of Membership at Richmond (and other Melbourne clubs I assume).

There's a standard member

Then there's a reserved seat member.

For two of the levels (of membership)............

Being a member, without reserved seat does not guarantee you entry on the big days.

Does get you equal weighting ffor finals ballots though.

Game by game you either wing it - hope to get in with members pass, or you pay extra to reserve a seat game by game.

(and the fans here whinge about ticket prices and seating etc................)

And yep - i'm interstate member.

Get 6 games a year for free (if I can get to them), incl 2 out of Melbourne (by request and if necessary ballot).

And also entry for GF ballot, which I was also lucky enough to achieve for 2017.

detonator

Nevershowsurprise said:

detonator said:

saxonsaxoff said:

Fremantle avg home attendance is slightly up on last year and the eagles have plateued. So membership doesn't tell the real story. Any reason why weagles can't fill that stadium every week or are their supporters just keyboard warriors?

I accept the membership is not the be all and end unless you are in W.A or S.A.

Eagles buy memberships because if you don`t you don`t get a seat at Optus.

Fremantle don`t have to buy memberships because there is always vacant decent seats.

My colleague at work had a Docker membership at Subiaco and then continued on to Optus at avg $55.00 per seat. When fellow Dockers supporters (non members) were buying tickets on the day for $30.00 and sitting him next to him, he said stuff this and did not renew his membership for this year

I would assume the crows supporters have the same seat shortage in Adelaide as Eagles members.

I am assuming a membership in Melbourne is about a quarter of the cost of a W.A membership because seat availability is not a problem.

But getting back to Freo, game style is turning a lot of people off.

In terms of Eagles not filling the stadium. I think you would be amazed of how many country people are members who have gone to games year after year religiously. Possibly a lot of the seats are there`s who have not bothered to attend.

Eagles avg home attendance in a 60,000 seat stadium is probably around 53,000. Which means there is approx. 88% filled.

Richmond with 100,000 members play at the G with 100,000 capacity.

I reckon the avg home game attendance for Tigers would be  60,000 which means 60% seats filled.

So Eagles doing pretty well I reckon compared to your mob and a lot of the big guns in the AFL.

Oh and I am a member and I go to every home game.

Det, your logic that Richmond members have a crack at a 100,000 seat stadium is incorrect.
About 45% of the MCG is reserved for MCC and AFL members, throw in corporate seats and away team special member allocation, the number is less than half what you stated.

Yes you are correct with the MCG members taking seats and the available seats shared amongst corporates and non Tigers members. My comments were on the fly and responding to Sax that Eagles members weren't filling the (by my numbers again on the fly) 10 to 12% of the empty seats.
He dangled the bait and I took it. =D>

saxonsaxoff

Just something that backs up why its hard to get a seat at the footy in WA and why they can charge so much. If you were to start an 18 team comp this year and split it based on participation this is what it would look like.

Vic 8.4
WA 3.1
SA 2.5
NSW 1.7
QLD 1.4
Tas 0.6
NT 0.3

So for all the talk of tassie getting a team its clear a 3rd team in WA is actually more viable. Just some food for thought.

oldhendo

Two teams in WA is two too many now, please dont bring another in.

=)) =)) =))

H-BOMBER

Anything in this Pies rumour about betting and match fixing? Rumour suggests up to 10 players and will be booted from finals this year.

Tivers

Will they be in finals for starters ?

Manchild

What ????

detonator

H-BOMBER said:

Anything in this Pies rumour about betting and match fixing? Rumour suggests up to 10 players and will be booted from finals this year.

Dayne Beams is a name that crops up in a lot of the rumours.

Not saying there is anything in it but ...

jum

detonator said:

H-BOMBER said:

Anything in this Pies rumour about betting and match fixing? Rumour suggests up to 10 players and will be booted from finals this year.

Dayne Beams is a name that crops up in a lot of the rumours.

Not saying there is anything in it but ...

Apparently he was the leader of the syndicate. 10 involved. That would have  ****ed collingwood if it was true.

Herald sun reporting that it was a hoax.

RIO

GWS?????? How even is this comp? Does anyone really want to play finals this year!!!

Tivers

And so much for them winning 5 flags on end......
Goes to show how hard it is to build a successful team. Lot more to it than just draft picks.
Only time it’s really worked was with west coast, who were given open slather to take players from other clubs.

spinking

What compensations were Brisbane afforded when they won 3 in a row?

Tivers

No salary cap from memory