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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited November 2015
    How many of the riders you spoke to AC rode a winner :)

    And best get on Watermans Bay - Sireeze - BHB, (and ofc Let it Slip) next start, just to name a few - all flew home a fair way off the fence. Obviously would have won without the unfair advantage you speak of the horses on the inside had ;)


    :-? Coincidently the Easterly had dropped when the above horses ran

    :)]  And add Final Moment as a "Special". Flew home down the middle of the track from 12th at the turn to miss by a neck in the 2nd when the Easterly was howling

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  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    I am not getting into a debate mate, I am just stating the facts, you can accept them or not accept them, doesn't worry me.

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  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    Let it slip race they went insane up front
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited November 2015
    No debate mate - just a simple question - did any of the riders you spoke to ride a winner :)

    and ofc I know WC let you down - just trying to help a fellow WA footy supporter load up his bank for a crack at the Dockers next year :D
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  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    Bank's fine mate stuck with Man Booker been on it at its two previous starts and wasn't jumping ship yesterday
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    Andrew Carter said:

    Bank's fine mate stuck with Man Booker been on it at its two previous starts and wasn't jumping ship yesterday

    Thought it was the win of the day. Cost me 1st place in the tipping comp though :(( just couldn't see it winning from the gate. No super concrete pad for Jerry - sure she was about 5 wide at one stage
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  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    Huge run under the circumstances but both of its two runs prior were huge as well.
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  • BucksBucks    158 posts
    I thought i would give some feedback from the perspective of a 30 year old.

    I brought about 20 mates (all around the same age) to the track on Saturday. We made the most of the free shuttle as most of us were drinking and had caught the train in.

    The staff were excellent and the food in Stone Motherless were great. The drinks prices are comparable if not cheaper than most other entertainment venues.

    We all loved the small pop up bars and all of the renovations PR had undertaken to both the public and members areas.

    Birds of Tokyo was a perfect choice as people of all ages were down there having a great time. We ended up kicking on down at Stone Motherless where the cover band was eager to please the crowd, singing stuff everyone knew and also taking a few song requests.

    My mates and i had such a great time that i think PR will get at least another 6 or 7 members in the coming weeks. To top it all off it also looks like we'll be trying to purchase a yearling at the sales in Feb so there will be another 15 or so new owners for the industry.
     

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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,479 posts
    Positive feedback Bucks. Good to read it. As a 30 year old though you are probably not mature enough on this site to give an accurate assessment  :)) :))

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,504 posts

    great post, bucks.... =D>

    I didn't go up to the members or the 1st floor....was in shorts....had a great arvo down with the mob.

    yeah beer prices are down...6.50 for a boags lite (driving), great atmosphere and all seemed to be enjoying themselves.

    having a PTT catch up on Kingston town day, bucks, come down wherever that is..and say hello.

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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,479 posts
    Falcon on the other hand is far too old to comment. :D

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  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts
    Q. What does Ascot and Gloucester Park have in common.
    A. Both have short straights and if you are in front on the turn, you usually win. L-)

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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,479 posts
    edited November 2015
    My main gripe with both sports is the length of the home straight. A long back straight and a long home straight is the way to go. The longer the home straight the better. It is horse racing not cycling.

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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Andrew Carter said:

    According to any number of jockeys, yes there was a definite fast lane caused by going to the 3m position for the first time accentuated further by the fact that the track was rock hard their words not mine and the prevailing weather conditions.

    Track played perfectly a fortnight ago at 6m then they went to 9m  and going to 3m or the true was always going to be asking for trouble if they went there on for the first time on super saturday, it was so predictable any number of people including Wes and myself predicted this would happen a month ago.

    So no surprise that the track, again a direct quote from many industry people was fducked!!!

    Apparently curator was tweeting  recently about the poor state of the WACA, how about actually concentratingbig ti would play speed  on the job you are being paid to do mate rather than tweeting about he bloody WACA wicket.

    Absolute balls up yet again, I was prepared to cut them a o agree withof slack but after speaking to a number of riders they were all of the same opinion.

    I tend not to agree with AC but he is spot on ,actually in his article he wrote he said the track would play the way it did ,again PR your a disgrace again i ask did anyones head roll after the meeting got cancelled ?? also with the curator i have a mate in the  lawn / retic industry  he basically said he couldnt run a bath and as AC maybe worry about your own job and not the WACA didnt thy give him the flick ?

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  • snipersniper    236 posts
    Disappointing day that was clearly predicted by the experts prior to the meeting, even Darren suggested on radio a few weeks back that the 3 metre pad was always conducive to front runners and that it should have been reviewed I recall, the powers at be need to start listening.
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    edited November 2015
    Happygolucky said:

    What a fricken disgrace today's racing was. How can you prepare a track with such leaders bias on the biggest race day of the year. Would have been better to abandon the meeting as they have done before. Perth Racing= biggest joke in Australia.
    Congrats to all winners though.

    Not to mention how many horses scratched / broken down / ruined.

    (Anyone else see an irony in the WACA being too soft, and Ascot too hard ?)

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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    FreoHitman said:

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    Legless said:


    what actual race do you have a grievance with
    I don't have a grievance as such.As far as I'm concerned,it is what it is,sometimes tracks favour swoopers,sometimes leaders and at other times the track plays fair and everyone gets an even shot.
    I had a horse in today which is a back marker,and when the leaders were winning early that's a worry,so asked a few riders how the track was playing.All riders said the inside is rock hard fast,and if you're not on speed then can't win.Our horse was big odds anyway,but the track bias made it even more difficult.
    Not to worry though,at least I've had a listed runner,enjoyed the day and found a couple of winners.



    Look , I've been following Perth exclusively for a number of years , I do my form & I know the dangers of the wind conditions , That easterly was howling today , ask anyone here how that plays our at Ascot . 
    Yes, from a punting point of view no one should be complaining..............
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited November 2015
    sniper said:

    Disappointing day that was clearly predicted by the experts prior to the meeting, even Darren suggested on radio a few weeks back that the 3 metre pad was always conducive to front runners and that it should have been reviewed I recall, the powers at be need to start listening.




    he knew something I didn't a few weeks in advance then. The rail was listed as true on CRIS up until late in the week :-?
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,504 posts
    CRIS is not the most reliable engine....

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  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    Knew at least a fortnight ago if not longer that it was gong to go to the 3m position but unfortunately that wasn't the only issue, the track was also like concrete and that's just not good enough.

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    8,008 posts
    Some comments on social media regarding the state of the track. Not that complimentary of the track managers ability.

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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited November 2015
    I hear that it was mowed during the week
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited November 2015
    Andrew Carter said:

    Let it slip race they went insane up front


    :-? Did they?

    the other 1200's on the day


    01:09:14     33:90 Let it Slip (out in 35.24)

    01:09:31     33:88 Lenience  (35.26)

    01:09:03     33:56 Shiedel   (35.47)

    01:08:17     34:38  Buffering  (33.79)
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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    ^^^ and you seriously trust any of that to be accurate????

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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    the overall distance and 600m position :-?? but the times - yes
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    legless the fastest paced(relative to distance) race of the day was buffering next fastest let it slip, and by far, so your numbers must have an error or two.
    lenience and sheidel were both slow in comparison.

    the slowest of the day was the railway, and by far, so there should be some jockeys asking themselves why they did not try to find a spot, instead of just automatically dropping way back, and ensuring their mount had to do the impossible to win, which they couldn't

    after doing my numbers which do get compensated for things like wind(even if i don't know what the wind was like!), then the speed bias is very very very evident in them


    but i am fairly sure that it's an annual event for this meeting where they move the rail to new ground thus favouring inside and close runners.


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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited November 2015
    The overall time for the Railway was fast compared to others- hopefully someone can come up with a split time manually.

    To me it looked like they crawled early but without times is impossible to be certain


    And even though DMac said in the call the frontrunners were going along quickly, I didn't see it that way - just the others were not chasing. Haven't seen the replay and must admit was mostly watching Noske carve up pushiin' shapes #-o
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  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts
    For those that do the form thoroughly and study speed maps etc, was Good Project the predicted leader ? If not then how did it end up leading ? The other jockeys should not collect their riding fees after that effort. Falc obviously by his own admission had the inside knowledge. Cmon Falc share the info !!
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited November 2015
    Had it in the 1st 4 in running with Hazzabeel, Messene,& Battle Hero. I was on Messene :-< mainly because it got within 2.5lgths of Winx in the epsom and I didnt think any of these could get anywhere near that close to her

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  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts
    Dufficy said Messenes rider gave up the lead to Williams when he could have taken the initiative.
    Need to look at replay again though. Did you see it that way Legless ?

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