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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I think a couple of lightly weighted 3yo's will be stalking him and I dont think he'll get the 1800m. Good luck with your bet though, you're right about the pace.Hazzabeel should have taken up the lead in the Railway but Lane didnt want it.

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  • ChelseaChelsea    1,369 posts
    Nothing beats our great friends from PUNTA
  • UnicornUnicorn    5 posts
    Taxi driver reckons Extra Zero.As an auspice,he was Aussie and that is rare.World weary.It would be nice to see an 8 yr old win.Extra Zero is no Shaftsbury Ave.But the Kingston is no Cox Plate.Strange weather days.Tough campaigners and 2000 m horses on rain affected track.
  • UnicornUnicorn    5 posts
    I do like that Durrant stepped Real Love up from 1400 to 2200 last campaign and she won.Won in the wet.Good win 2 starts ago.
  • UnicornUnicorn    5 posts
    Well, mum always saya Willie Pike. Great ride.The weight probably made a difference.Should listen to mum.Great run Delicacy.

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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Chelsea said:

    H-BOMBER said:

    Chelsea said:

    hash said:


    @georgecantstandya  if you can show me on race day with final field they are betting 100% in the first 5 horses in betting, well I will agree with you. But both you & I know that wont happen. So if the first 5 in betting start considerably shorter than they are now in a final field market and you are betting into that market, please please please bet with us @ PUNTA !!!!!!!!!

    Bob Peters has 4 of the top 6 in the market... pretty much has the race nailed on but with which horse...


    Magic Artist and Black Heart Bart are not out of this race. Bob had four runners in the Railway too and he came up empty.

    Grant Williams has never won this race from 13 attempts
    I think the 3yos get in too light and Perfect Reflection is the best of the crop this year so I will be backing her whether I have another bet or not.
    I agree with this. None of the 3yos from the Guineas can beat Perfect Reflection from what I have seen. Disposition just missed last year and I think PR is better at this stage of her career. I reckon Hally back on Delicacy is also a big plus, and like her to go bang third up, could be a start of another picket fence for her with the longer distance age and WFA races available. Perth Cup is probably out of the question.


    We will see,everybody raving about Perfect Reflection,but Man Booker just as impressive.Go back and have another look at the Belgravia,which horse did the most work in the race? Look at the Fairetha which horse did the most work in the race? Won the Guineas, where were Showy Chloe,Blackwood and Arcadia Dream? When everybody was raving about the fillies.Meets Perfect Reflection 1.5 kg better than the only time they met when beaten only 2 length
    One is $4.00 in the market the other is $19.
    I know which one will run out the strongest 1800 m
    One will be back in the field the other one will be handy to the pace
    I have put my money where my mouth is,backed it again today at $21 with Crown Bet to make it firm into $17.
    Not in the ball park there MB is lengths of the good filly and yesterday proved it
  • dungydungy    9,278 posts

    @chelsea Would you have expected Disposition to be so far forward last year? It was midfield in the Guineas and its racing pattern up until then was to get back. Pike will push forward, absolutely no doubt about that otherwise he would have stuck with Delicacy. If those two are side by side with 600m to go, the weight disparity will be meaningless.

    ??? weight was always going to tell the story
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    dungy said:




    ??? weight was always going to tell the story

    lol lol lol
    you have to be joking dungy my dear, you would have EXACTLY NO IDEA, of what story weight can tell.
    Come on deary, let's see you value it, i dare you, come on dungy, spit it out.
    you would have exactly the same idea of value of weight as the wa handicapping panel have.......
    N O N E   ZILCH   NOTHING  SFA
  • dungy said:


    @chelsea Would you have expected Disposition to be so far forward last year? It was midfield in the Guineas and its racing pattern up until then was to get back. Pike will push forward, absolutely no doubt about that otherwise he would have stuck with Delicacy. If those two are side by side with 600m to go, the weight disparity will be meaningless.

    ??? weight was always going to tell the story
    Hall didn't use the whip. Maybe she doesn't like it and maybe she doesn't go as well but tell me you were confident with 50-100m to go? Delicacy has been beaten a nose in a $1 million Group 1 race. Even with a 6.5kg difference in weight, Delicacy ran a faster closing 600m split than the winner despite being held up for a run and not being shown the whip-those were the decisive factors, not the weight.
  • ChelseaChelsea    1,369 posts
    dungy said:

    Chelsea said:

    H-BOMBER said:

    Chelsea said:

    hash said:


    @georgecantstandya  if you can show me on race day with final field they are betting 100% in the first 5 horses in betting, well I will agree with you. But both you & I know that wont happen. So if the first 5 in betting start considerably shorter than they are now in a final field market and you are betting into that market, please please please bet with us @ PUNTA !!!!!!!!!

    Bob Peters has 4 of the top 6 in the market... pretty much has the race nailed on but with which horse...


    Magic Artist and Black Heart Bart are not out of this race. Bob had four runners in the Railway too and he came up empty.

    Grant Williams has never won this race from 13 attempts
    I think the 3yos get in too light and Perfect Reflection is the best of the crop this year so I will be backing her whether I have another bet or not.
    I agree with this. None of the 3yos from the Guineas can beat Perfect Reflection from what I have seen. Disposition just missed last year and I think PR is better at this stage of her career. I reckon Hally back on Delicacy is also a big plus, and like her to go bang third up, could be a start of another picket fence for her with the longer distance age and WFA races available. Perth Cup is probably out of the question.


    We will see,everybody raving about Perfect Reflection,but Man Booker just as impressive.Go back and have another look at the Belgravia,which horse did the most work in the race? Look at the Fairetha which horse did the most work in the race? Won the Guineas, where were Showy Chloe,Blackwood and Arcadia Dream? When everybody was raving about the fillies.Meets Perfect Reflection 1.5 kg better than the only time they met when beaten only 2 length
    One is $4.00 in the market the other is $19.
    I know which one will run out the strongest 1800 m
    One will be back in the field the other one will be handy to the pace
    I have put my money where my mouth is,backed it again today at $21 with Crown Bet to make it firm into $17.
    Not in the ball park there MB is lengths of the good filly and yesterday proved it
    I


    I would not say 'not in the ballpark' ,you obviously only looked at Perfect Reflections run and looked where Man Booker finished.Was travelling on the inside of Blackwood past the 600m when Blackwood hit the front about 250 m from home Man Boooker was about 6len behind it in virtually last place.and finished the race off great once clear only about 2.5 lengths from Blackwood all of the the first 5 over the line had trouble free runs (Delicacy momentarily held up in the straight) where Man Booker had no momentum whatsoever.it was a great run.

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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    carey said:


    dungy said:




    ??? weight was always going to tell the story

    lol lol lol
    you have to be joking dungy my dear, you would have EXACTLY NO IDEA, of what story weight can tell.
    Come on deary, let's see you value it, i dare you, come on dungy, spit it out.
    you would have exactly the same idea of value of weight as the wa handicapping panel have.......
    N O N E   ZILCH   NOTHING  SFA
    1kg to length ,i actually think you went for the job as handicapper in WA  and got knocked back LOL LOL talk about an axe to grind yawwwwwwwwn LOL LOL
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    i actually think you have no idea dungy....no that's wrong......i know you have no idea.
    why ever would i want to work as a handicapper, especially at the old boys club called rwwa?
    so you actually think wrong.

    as for 1kg equalling a length then that is even more wrong.
    apart from the fact that it is incalculable, and one can only have best guess, then i would estimate that you are 1.5kg wrong.
    2.5kg would be far closer then your 1kg.

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