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Belmont Preview, 25th Jun 2016

West Australian Racing

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  • OliversTwistOliversTwist    1,240 posts
    Perth Turf Talk said:

    R8. Les Caporn 70th Birthday Handicap - Scott Embry

    PTT Quaddie: 1,2,5,6,8 / 1,7,10 / 2,3,5,14 / 13 - $100 = 167%




    @hash there is still a definite pulse in the quad bods!

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  • OliversTwistOliversTwist    1,240 posts
    Thanks for the kind words lads. @Sticks on the money as always, "head for radio"
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  • frenc11frenc11    102 posts
    No more respondant for me , that crap has cost me a bucket of money
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Watching replays this morning ,i have no clue why the girl Warwick went and breezed on Wink and Nod the horse races best with cover and saved up for a sprint and upto 2000m thought that was very strange was never going to run the trip ridden like that 

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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    dungy said:

    Watching replays this morning ,i have no clue why the girl Warwick went and breezed on Wink and Nod the horse races best with cover and saved up for a sprint and upto 2000m thought that was very strange was never going to run the trip ridden like that 

    because it was 2000m obviously, and the pace was likely going to be more relaxed.
    it was the correct way to ride it imho.
    nothing wrong with the ride, because it would not have that same sharp sprint home in 2000m race as it would have in a 1200 - 1600 race.
    it was the BEST way to try and get it to run the trip imo, except it just was not good enough over 2000m.
    maybe they went a bit hard early(don't know yet), but if they did, and it was back in the ruck, it would have went worse than it did.
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    I reckon Pikey might have got it home  :-j

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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    H-BOMBER said:

    I reckon Pikey might have got it home  :-j

    <br/

    Lol lol lol good work H
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    maybe he 'might' have, but you will never ever know.
    i doubt he would have made any difference.
    now that the data is on my computer i am even more confident it was the right thing to do(even if unintentional),  as they walked.
    how would a horse suspect at 2000, have got over the top of them if it was further back?
    maybe it was simply a case of the BEST HORSE ON THE DAY WINNING!


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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    I agree, I don't think it would have made a difference how the horse was ridden. I'm not sure why it was so short either?
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    Respondent, after a brief holiday at Oakland Park Stud, will be aimed at the Perth Summer Carnival but with a different program in mind.

    Paris Dream who was also purchased won't be seen most likely until very late in the year after a lengthy spell to get over a manageable minor issue.

    Both were purchased yesterday at the MM Winter Sale.
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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    Trainer picked out yet Damo???
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    carey said:

    maybe he 'might' have, but you will never ever know.
    i doubt he would have made any difference.
    now that the data is on my computer i am even more confident it was the right thing to do(even if unintentional),  as they walked.
    how would a horse suspect at 2000, have got over the top of them if it was further back?
    maybe it was simply a case of the BEST HORSE ON THE DAY WINNING!





    Probably right there Carey my point was ridden with a smother would have given it a better chance to run out 2000m but again it's the unknown I suppose
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  • notapuntanotapunta    938 posts
    dungy said:

    Watching replays this morning ,i have no clue why the girl Warwick went and breezed on Wink and Nod the horse races best with cover and saved up for a sprint and upto 2000m thought that was very strange was never going to run the trip ridden like that 



    I stayed well clear of it as way too short for a horse who has never raced over the distance.

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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    One for @dungy and @carey to listen to with the lights off

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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    H-BOMBER said:

    One for @dungy and @carey to listen to with the lights off





    Ohh H stop it now mate

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    paraletic said:

    Trainer picked out yet Damo???

    As soon as the Owner confirms it, I will post.

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  • spinkingspinking    4,001 posts
    I am tipping J.Taylor Para

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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    spinking said:

    I am tipping J.Taylor Para




    Previous trainers A Durrant and G Williams not very often other trainers improve horses from those 2 blokes I remember Adam saying he didn't think it was a stayer more 1400-1600 goes ok but Respondent as does the other horse all the best with them Damien

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    Thanks Dungy. Irrespective of who trains Respondent, he was purchased with a definite view to races up to 1800M but most likely a mile. He will be aimed at The Railway Stakes but he needs to find something to be again competitive at that level. He is rated high enough to get a start based on the last couple of years of entrants, and he himself wasn't that far away a couple of seasons ago as a younger horse finishing 2 1/4 len behind his stablemate Elite Belle.

    If whoever takes him on can rejuvenate him through a change of Training and environment, then with the racing around the Railway and the race itself, the $57,500 is money well spent in the Owner's eyes. Every year I try and buy horses that can progress beyond Saturday class, I think everyone aims for that, but this horse is already there, so we will have a throw at the stumps and see what happens.

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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    He's already past there is your problem.
    I wish you luck, but feel you're going to need it.

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  • buffybuffy    277 posts
    Damien what share of these horses did you keep?
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    Nil, I would say..no offence to damo.
    all respondent has to do is win 2 sat. races to almost cover purchase price...which he may do..a good buy imo, tivs.
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    Buffy, I buy only for clients, I don't make speculative purchases hoping to on sell.
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  • RodentRodent    7,470 posts
    Hard to believe Respondent hasn't won for over 2 years when he was a 3yo 73 rated horse. Now he's a 90.
     The thing is people spend way more than that on yearlings with the odds stacked against them. Respondent is already guaranteed to be competing in stakes races for good money. If he's placed well, the owner should be able to have some good fun.

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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    That there is the problem though - place him where ?
    Rising 6yo, going to decide he doesn't want to do it sooner than later, and going to take a lot of ruins to get his rating back down to a winnable level.

    Not a know on the horse, or Damien - that's WA racing is what I'm explaining.
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