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  • NgawyniNgawyni    786 posts
    I notice the stewards report yesterday had Wink and A Nod as a gelding. Would have been an interesting op . . . 
  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts
    See Whyte is 0 and 9 in even getting a place in Sha Tin today. Must have other things on his mind like how is he going to pull the wool over the stewards eyes.
  • savethegamesavethegame    3,216 posts
    Malcom Johnston stood up on one   when  he came to perth was it daryls reward  or some thing similar got a stretch  long time ago?
  • spinkingspinking    4,001 posts
    Detonator Scully and Moulder are coming for you

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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    spinking said:

    Detonator Scully and Moulder are coming for you

    I want to believe

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  • NotapuntasNotapuntas    161 posts
    detonator said:

    See Whyte is 0 and 9 in even getting a place in Sha Tin today. Must have other things on his mind like how is he going to pull the wool over the stewards eyes.



    Got 2nd place in the last on the fav. Was watching with interest too haha. I know when I have a shocker at work it takes a few day's to get back in the groove.
  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts
    spinking said:

    Detonator Scully and Moulder are coming for you



    At last, notoriety.
    If any stewards are monitoring this thread, please consider all of my expert analysis on the evidence I have presented in your cross examination of Douggie.
    Too many common sense points to ignore.
    Can't wait to see SOJ in Melbourne. If Douggie retains the ride then my work is done. Lol
  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts
    Found the winning post ok that time.


  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    edited December 2016
    detonator said:

    Found the winning post ok that time.


    Yeah cos his HK mate Berry let him out of a pocket without even a hint of resistance
    :-\"
  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts
    edited December 2016

    detonator said:

    Found the winning post ok that time.



    Yeah cos his HK mate Berry let him out of a pocket without even a hint of resistance
    :-\"


    Careful Kramer. The Whyte sympathisers will shift their focus off me and on to you. Lol
  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    edited December 2016

    detonator said:

    detonator said:

    Found the winning post ok that time.



    Yeah cos his HK mate Berry let him out of a pocket without even a hint of resistance
    :-\"


    Careful Kramer. The Whyte sympathisers will shift their focus off me and on to you. Lol
    Disclosure: I was on Disposition for a $4.5k all-up collect with Elite Belle(Railway)... @thefalcon  was right...this time!
  • spinkingspinking    4,001 posts
    No sympathy from me .from the vision available to us . and we dont have hawkeye whatever that is. But the view we have seen there is one conclusion guilty, failed to ride it out. Dont know about the rest of your theory after that though Deto

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  • NgawyniNgawyni    786 posts
    I wonder how much it cost the owners to get him over here (apart from first prizemoney). After the Railway Lindsey was joking that it cost so much, he must have had his own plane.
  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts
    spinking said:

    No sympathy from me .from the vision available to us . and we dont have hawkeye whatever that is. But the view we have seen there is one conclusion guilty, failed to ride it out. Dont know about the rest of your theory after that though Deto



    Sticking to my guns on this one.
    When the truth comes out I will be humble in victory.
  • AmyquilAmyquil    250 posts
    Jell said:

    Of course D.Mac would be playing it down. The way he talks about D.Whyte on the radio, it's obvious they are good friends. I will be listening in tomorrow to see if there is any talk about it but I doubt it, nobody will have the courage to speak up and admit that he needs a decent penalty for this.

    Wez would usually speak his mind but even on this I don't think he would since he's the one that got D.Whyte to come over and ride apparently.

    He's a good jockey and I hope it doesn't stop him coming back but things like this can't just be ignored.

    "Wez would usually speak his mind"


    Yeah right. He's got everyone fooled. He does speak his mind on pretty much every topic including eastern states racing and goes out of his way to be controversial but I've never heard him be critical of anything in WA racing.

    He's not quite as rusted onto PR since he left but still says next to nothing.

    If he wants some colourful commentary he'll get someone like Steve Wolfe on the program.

    It's time people actually listened to what Wes talks about. For all the titilation he won't criticise horses, trainers, jockeys, rides, RWWA staff including stewards or PR staff and decision makers.

    I reckon when Josh Rodder was a Monday morning regular on the breakfast program he told more "truth" in his first hour than Wes has in twenty years.
  • AmyquilAmyquil    250 posts
    Ps. I congratulate him for achieving what he has. Wouldn't everyone want their passion to be their job. It's been a steady climb. He hasn't got there by treading on toes.
    But at the same time he has made great use of populism
  • GilgameshGilgamesh    5,009 posts
    detonator said:

    spinking said:

    Jell and Detonator can you explain to me just how D Mac is playing it down by stating what the trainer and owner said they were the ones that said they were happy with the ride not Mcaullay

    Spinking. I was commenting on Jell comments about scribes playing it down. Mcauley said Smith and the senior mgr of the connections told the stewards that they were satisfied with Whyte's ride. Not disputing that part. What I did follow up saying in another post is that all the scribes are dancing around this one. All not having the balls to say what 90% of the racing public with 20/20 vision saw.
    If the jockey was Joe bloggs from Oakford the knives would be out. But they all are worried about their good standing in the racing industry.
    Did D Mac say what penalty he should get. ? N0
    He was more interested in finding an "out"for Douggie in suggesting that he could have been confused by the advertising boarding 10m either side of the winning post. Jeeesus. What next ??
    Even Greg Radley sitting next to D Mac was squirming uncomfortably at what was coming out of D Macs mouth. You could see he was busting to say his mind but was also thinking about next years paid jaunt in Perth.
    If that is not looking after their mates I don't know what is !!!





    Have to give Adam McGrath a wrap then, he didn't hold back with his thoughts.

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  • savethegamesavethegame    3,216 posts
    Amyquil,you are pretty close,.But wes and gareth forgot who they were employed by on 31/10/2016,with regards to trotting persons disq.saying what he did happens everyday of the week,with regards tactics and so on,realized they were trying   to defend   the indefensible and dug themselves  a hole and  then ,quickly saying  he wasn't  given  31/2 years for nothing..Then switched play by  will have to get mr. borovica on.What protects the punter in this industry is most important element ,because the   dogooders are gathering over the hill  and if the punters  join them there will be no industry.Simple whats right is always right. 
  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    My 2 cents - the book needs to be thrown at Douglas, a seasoned pro missing the line like that is unforgivable. I genuinely feel gutted for the owners, you pay to get someone here (twice) for a gem of a ride in the Railway and then an absolute stinker in the KT. If they were satisfied by that ride they must need their heads read. I backed the winner so no crying on my side but fair dinkum in a group 1 that just isnt on, you would have thought a vetran would have been better prepared and given due consideration to what he was doing.

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    Just on the racing media for a second any journo or media person too critical often is shafted...Ken Callander excellent Sydney scribe never frightened to speak his mind...resigned on principle after being dictated to as to what to write and not write. Another in Victoria forthright in his opinion was great to listen to - Dr. Turf also was shown the door. The two blokes above don't want to put down racing it's their passion that wants to see racing get better...it's the ones who are 'lovey dovey' and in cahoots with the establishment that pull the game down.

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  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts
    Listening to Wes and Lindsay Smith currently on Racing Radio.
    Can't believe the crap I am hearing.

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  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts
    If someone can get this comedy act up on this forum, please do so because it is embarrassing to listen to. Talk about looking for outs it is farcical.

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  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts
    Even pulling the vet card now. Faaark me.

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  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts
    Deflect deflect deflect deflect.

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  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts
    Pass me the spew bucket now.

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  • MinesACoronaMinesACorona    184 posts
    edited December 2016
    Detonator, IT'S DONE GET OVER IT! No one is listening to you ramblings. :-@

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  • careycarey    6,424 posts

    Detonator, IT'S DONE GET OVER IT! No one is listening to you ramblings. :-@

    hang on, hang on...are you calling me nobody!!! 
    =))

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  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts

    Detonator, IT'S DONE GET OVER IT! No one is listening to you ramblings. :-@

    Mines a corona......says it all.

  • detonatordetonator    4,397 posts
    Wes still having 50 cents each way on D Whyte. Amongst all the laughing and Coom Bai Ar about that trivial matter about not riding a horse out in a group one.
    And no I am not over it.
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