Pinjarra 9th April

Chelsea · April 2017

Must be our turn today

BlacksAFake · April 2017

Shouldn't be 3 wide the trip either :>

The_Real_Peterman · April 2017

Looking at that field for race 4 it was inevitable D Mac was going to have a 'blonde' moment in the call. ;))

udontknow · April 2017

I like equine wiz alot. Will expect it to win. Cant believe price

udontknow · April 2017

Triple Event in the next

Offthebit · April 2017

Fair old carve up by g smith on zarantz. The poor horse won't be able to walk for a week!!

sonny · April 2017

I thought team driving was only for the trots..

Ngawyni · April 2017

Don't know why Parnham didn't hand up

The_Real_Peterman · April 2017

They would never attack Parnham when he was an apprentice. He tried to put the breaks on in the Derby, too and that was a mess. All of a sudden rival hoops have learned what initiative is.

Fastmoney · April 2017

Offthebit said:
Fair old carve up by g smith on zarantz. The poor horse won't be able to walk for a week!!

New trainer tomorrow.

Chris · April 2017

Chelsea said:
Must be our turn today

just like that B-)

detonator · April 2017

sonny said:
I thought team driving was only for the trots..

Worse case of team riding I have seen in a long time.
Both Zarantz and Dark Alert both ridden upside down compared to last runs.
Bob gets the result he was looking for.
The money on the winner was there for a reason.
Another example of the authorities lack of backbone preventing this stuff to be allowed to happen in W.A racing. Fair dinkum disgrace.

The_Real_Peterman · April 2017

@detonator I was on the fav and it was the second leg of an all up( @thefalcon was right in this case). I don't have an issue with rivals testing out an odds on fav, it's more the fact that initiative is apparently only used selectively. Warwick said pre race the instructions were to not to do anything silly. No way Zarantz goes that hard if it leads but it Parnham takes a sit the fav finshed a lot closer than it did leading.

thefalcon · April 2017

who did Chris win the oaks for?

detonator · April 2017

The_Real_Peterman said:
@detonator I was on the fav and it was the second leg of an all up( @thefalcon was right in this case). I don't have an issue with rivals testing out an odds on fav, it's more the fact that initiative is apparently only used selectively. Warwick said pre race the instructions were to not to do anything silly. No way Zarantz goes that hard if it leads but it Parnham takes a sit the fav finshed a lot closer than it did leading.

Not sure the top weight trained by Bob Peters no1 trainer and ridden by Bob Peters no2 rider Glen Smith should have been the one to commit suicide taking on the leader. Dark Alert owned by Bob Peters and ridden by his number no1 jockey is up on the speed waiting to pounce.
Dark Alert couldn't get out of its own way last start. Change of tactics up on the speed when the favourite is hassled to death. Geez looked suspect at best.

The_Real_Peterman · April 2017

You can't expect the other riders to allow an odds on fav to go to the lead with no pressure and turn a staying race into a sit and sprint. It may happen more than it should but if you're on the fav you should realise you've got a target on your back. He didn't have to lead. He did and he paid the price.

thefalcon · April 2017

watched it at the pub with an astute judge...said at the 1000m..."these 2 lunatics are gone for all money...just cop the stalker..its home"....and it was...

detonator · April 2017

The_Real_Peterman said:
You can't expect the other riders to allow an odds on fav to go to the lead with no pressure and turn a staying race into a sit and sprint. It may happen more than it should but if you're on the fav you should realise you've got a target on your back. He didn't have to lead. He did and he paid the price.

So "Peters man" did you read my post ?
You failed to mention the connection between the sacrificial lamb (Zarantz) trainer and jockey to the owner of the winner. By all means pressure the fav, but the "pressure" horse was carrying 59kgs and was ridden completely different to when coming second to the fav in the Bunbury Cup and today with a one and a half kg weight swing. Doesn't make sense ? Unless .......

detonator · April 2017

I wouldn't normally direct anyone to listen to D Macs race calls but he sums it up perfectly about 100m left to go in the Pinjarra Cup and after the horses start to pull up.

The_Real_Peterman · April 2017

I did read your post but I've also read the many posts where you maintain Douglas Whyte and Lindsay Smith gifted Darren Weir the KT. I'd say you have a naturally cynical disposition.

Parnham was punked twice in two days on favs in staying races. Willie Pike he ain't. I don't think he or Smith knew they were on track record pace. But if you ride an odds on fav the same way every time you are predictable. Did Smith ride the race to beat the fav? Sure, but that doesn't mean it was dodgy ride. Bad ride? Hell yes but there are plenty of them every day of the week.

detonator · April 2017

Cynical disposition ? Yeah I do actually, particularly when a world class jockey drops his hands in a group one, and the stallion beats the gelding in a group one and the winning trainer splashes $5000 across the bar. Anyway Peters man. You are entitled to your views as I am. We beg to differ on this one as well.

Sticks · April 2017

dark alert had a 5kg weight swing over material man 2 starts ago with arguably a better run.... pike got caught flat footed last start - no way he was making the same mistake again.

and the trainer for the top weight and the winner are different? geoff durrant & Jason Miller train the winner. Grant and alana williams trains the top weight.

talking out of your **** if you think the top weight was running the race to set it up for a horse trained by a different trainer. yes they have a connection, but if you start looking at races to find every way their is a connection then every race is set up.

parnham did not have to lead - could have let zarantz go and take a sit. Pike again made everyone look silly with a great patient ride.

BlacksAFake · April 2017

Amazing what a jockey change does@Chelsea

dungy · April 2017

detonator said:

sonny said:
I thought team driving was only for the trots..

Worse case of team riding I have seen in a long time.
Both Zarantz and Dark Alert both ridden upside down compared to last runs.
Bob gets the result he was looking for.
The money on the winner was there for a reason.
Another example of the authorities lack of backbone preventing this stuff to be allowed to happen in W.A racing. Fair dinkum disgrace.

There not stablemates so how is that team riding ?? Zarantz fired up and Smithy let it roll simple as that and Pike was stalking he was always going to ride Dark Alert more handy to keep it switched on in the run , team riding lol lol

detonator · April 2017

Sticks said:
dark alert had a 5kg weight swing over material man 2 starts ago with arguably a better run.... pike got caught flat footed last start - no way he was making the same mistake again.
and the trainer for the top weight and the winner are different? geoff durrant & Jason Miller train the winner. Grant and alana williams trains the top weight.
talking out of your **** if you think the top weight was running the race to set it up for a horse trained by a different trainer. yes they have a connection, but if you start looking at races to find every way their is a connection then every race is set up.
parnham did not have to lead - could have let zarantz go and take a sit. Pike again made everyone look silly with a great patient ride.

Take your rose coloured glasses off Sticks.

Fastmoney · April 2017

sonny · April 2017

Team riding does't necessary mean you are in the same stable. Check out the the reports from the Q.LD. trots. I know it is a different industry but it happens.

carey · April 2017

Sticks said:
dark alert had a 5kg weight swing over material man 2 starts ago with arguably a better run.... pike got caught flat footed last start - no way he was making the same mistake again.
and the trainer for the top weight and the winner are different? geoff durrant & Jason Miller train the winner. Grant and alana williams trains the top weight.
talking out of your **** if you think the top weight was running the race to set it up for a horse trained by a different trainer. yes they have a connection, but if you start looking at races to find every way their is a connection then every race is set up.
parnham did not have to lead - could have let zarantz go and take a sit. Pike again made everyone look silly with a great patient ride.

well of course he was left flat footed at bunbury, because the pace was only so so, and those up front still had a lot of horse under them
it was a run with NO intent is my honest opinion.
yesterday was more its normal style.

all you need do to see how crap the ride was, is look at the very next race that day over the same course.
class 3 run in faster overall time.
bunbury cup 103.63 to the 600
class 3 101.49 to the 600

of course he was left 'flat footed'!!! =))

i have just one question for you sticks.....are you a steward? =))

i'll reserve my opinion of what happened yesterday, until i see numbers.

detonator · April 2017

Fastmoney said:

Interesting reading. No action of course.

Bludnut · April 2017

Well it has taken 8542 goes but Dungy has actually made a valid and well considered comment. Well done mate!

sonny · April 2017

Is that tongue in check,Bludnut?

G'day Punter!

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