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Top 5 jockeys in perth

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[DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
edited November 2013 West Australian Racing
Given their is always alot of jockey talk here i like to  see who people think are the top 5 riders in perth be interested to get peoples ideas.Carey and rodents view would be interesting.
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    in no particular order

    Knuckey
    Brown
    O'Donnell
    Harvey
    S Parnham
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  • DarkhorseDarkhorse    666 posts
    JJ Miller

    Daylight 


    P Harvey
    no others should be mentioned in the same breath.
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  • ThumperThumper    820 posts
    P Harvey
    Jarrad Noske
    W Pike
    D Steack

    Can't find a 5th after those 4. The rest an average mob at best
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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    Who is the best app rider out of all of them if their is one?
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  • troopertrooper    681 posts

    B Paterson.

     

    and i think he rides better than half the senior jockeys

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  • troopertrooper    681 posts
    edited November 2013

    Jarrad Noske

    W Pike

    P Harvey

    D Staeck (sometimes)

    B Paterson.

     

    in no particular order

     

    rest i shy away from.

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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts

    Pike

    Noske

    B & S Parnham

    Maybe Harvey - on past feats and Staeck on results. But both short of the mark.

    Apprentices?????? Gee i like Mitchell, but Paterson and Parnham get the results. All about opinion here..Parnham for me then.

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  • hollda09hollda09    225 posts
    Legless said:

    in no particular order

    Knuckey
    Brown
    O'Donnell
    Harvey
    S Parnham

    Jason Brown? I cant back him in with any confidence whatsoever

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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    hollda09 said:

    Legless said:

    in no particular order

    Knuckey
    Brown
    O'Donnell
    Harvey
    S Parnham

    Jason Brown? I cant back him in with any confidence whatsoever

    i think the object of this game is to put up your selections, not pick the shit out of others selections...mailman will do that when the list gets long enough... =))

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  • careycarey    6,424 posts

    how do you determine it?

    my own personal opinion is that i like o'odonnell most.

    but if i went by their final tab divis then i would give it to staeck.
    and that makes me not one bit happy.

    win ratio gives it to harvey by a mile, but he is only 6th best when it comes to how much they pay.

    i also know why dungy never gets to sling his missus
    pike is about 12th best when it come to actual wins and how many he should have won going by the tab divi.
    slightly behind kyra in fact!!  =))

    too hard to have any hard and fast rules, and it's fluid anyway.
    weight them by recency and everything changes.

    ben paterson is actually 2nd behind staeck as far as tab divis go, but how much of that is due to who he rides for?

    and that's over a 5 year period, if i did differently then it would likely all change.

    they're just one part of a big puzzle is all.
    albeit a big part.

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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    edited November 2013
    I noted john size said he would never put kids on a horse that could win he rather the weight so my question is y do these trainers keep putting kids on winning hopes for sake of 3kg to see them get hacked up.I notice a horse in race 3 on saturday morton stable.I liked alot of tapes last start and then u look at jockey and u go y.Do THEY NOT WANT BEST CHANCE FOR HORSE TO WIN A RACE.

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  • careycarey    6,424 posts

    maybe most trainers don't know enough about racing.

    we had a top melbourne trainer working with us.
    i can remember him telling me, that when(and if) he goes back to it, he will be far better trainer than what he was before he worked with us.
    he knows racing now & not just horses.
    and there is a big difference between the two.

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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    edited November 2013

    What u have said makes sense other wise one comes to the idea that they  just dont have much of a brain.On the other hand if they have no idea then it seems to make a little more sense they dont know they are lowing their hopes before they even start.

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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Mailman said:

    I noted john size said he would never put kids on a horse that could win he rather the weight so my question is y do these trainers keep putting kids on winning hopes for sake of 3kg to see them get hacked up.I notice a horse in race 3 on saturday morton stable.I liked alot of tapes last start and then u look at jockey and u go y.Do THEY NOT WANT BEST CHANCE FOR HORSE TO WIN A RACE.


    :-S
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Paterson
    Smith
    Staeck
    Castle
    P Hall
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Mailman said:

    What u have said makes sense other wise one comes to the idea that they  just dont have much of a brain.On the other hand if they have no idea then it seems to make a little more sense they dont know they are lowing their hopes before they even start.


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  • ChelseaChelsea    1,369 posts
    Mailman, you must be licking the stamps.Morton only had two runners on sat,one ridden by Pike and the other O'Donnell.
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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    No chelsea i mean this saturday coming.
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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    Darkshines are u serious about putting smith in your top 5 the guy cant even ride them out to line please.
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  • ChelseaChelsea    1,369 posts
    Mailman,Record for Morton stable for Noske 1 ride 1win on Big Josh 2 weeks ago.Have a look at that ride!!!

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,484 posts

    for what its worth.

    harvey

    o'donnell

    knuckey

    patterson

    pike

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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    What did u think of the ride on wensday on that fav over 1200m chelsea in race barrier 4 and 3 deep all the way on a horse with very good gate speed mmmm.
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  • HenleyBrookHenleyBrook    408 posts

    1) Paul Harvey

    2) Brad Parnham

    3) Jarrad Noske

    4) Shaun O'Donnel

    5) Ben Paterson

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  • ChelseaChelsea    1,369 posts
    Obviously you backed it Mailman, that can happen sometimes in a race.look at the ride on Moonsearch in the Fairetha,3 deep from barrier 4 for the entire race and that was not an apprentice.
    If you want to back favourites with apprentices on over the sprint distances its up to you!!

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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    Did not back it saw the ride but. :-O
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Three deep at Belmont/Ascot is not like elswhere around the country. No point riding pretty and getting blocked for a run.
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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    edited November 2013
    And well we are on subject chelsea u said moonsearch he has no were need the gate speed of the other horse we are talking about so alot easyer to get caught wide.If u are going to draw line to go with your ideas the context has to be same not apples and oranges.Gate speed and traveling speed are very different things to position in run settling.If u have half the motor u can easy get caught 4 wide from inside gates.If u have a good motor under u from a inside gate it have to be a fair puck up to do the same.
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  • TesseractTesseract    61 posts
    Mailman said:

    I noted john size said he would never put kids on a horse that could win he rather the weight so my question is y do these trainers keep putting kids on winning hopes for sake of 3kg to see them get hacked up.I notice a horse in race 3 on saturday morton stable.I liked alot of tapes last start and then u look at jockey and u go y.Do THEY NOT WANT BEST CHANCE FOR HORSE TO WIN A RACE.

    Correct me if im wrong but im sure it was Mick Price who said "sometimes claiming 3kg's is like gaining 3kg's" , too true.

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  • theketaminekidtheketaminekid    479 posts
    Paul Harvey then daylight.

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  • rickrick    487 posts

    punters make me laugh they try telling jockeys how to ride , try telling trainers how to train there horses and how they should be ridden whats next you going to tell them what to feed them , lol to answer the question P Harvey the best here.

     

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