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Pike v Moreira-The race to 100 winners 3.0, The Thrillogy

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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Lloyd 76 (25%)
    Voodoo 73 (23%)
    Pike 57 (27%)
    Purton 44 (17%)
    Nash 23 (16%)
    Harvey 18 (23%)
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Lloyd 78 (25%)
    Voodoo 74 (23%)
    Pike 61 (27%)
    Purton 44 (17%)
    Nash 23 (16%)
    Harvey 18 (22%)
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Lloyd 79 (25%)
    Voodoo 74 (23%)
    Pike 61 (27%)
    Purton 44 (17%)
    Nash 23 (16%)
    Harvey 18 (22%)
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Moreira with a treble and Clipperton gets a $140 winner :-O


    Lloyd 79 (25%)
    Moreira 77 (23%)
    Pike 61 (27%)
    Purton 44 (16%)
    Nash 23 (15%)
    Harvey 18 (22%) 
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Lloyd 79 (25%)
    Moreira 79 (23%)
    Pike 61 (27%)
    Purton 46 (17%)
    Nash 23 (15%)
    Harvey 18 (22%) 
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Lloyd 80 (25%)
    Moreira 79 (23%)
    Pike 61 (27%)
    Purton 46 (17%)
    Nash 23(15%)
    Harvey 18 (22%)
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Lloyd 81 (24%)
    Moreira 79 (23%)
    Pike 61 (27%)
    Purton 46 (17%)
    Nash 23(15%)
    Harvey 18 (21%)
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Sam Clipperton rode a treble today and is a couple wins from outright 4th in the HK premiership. I'm going to sub him in for the Pontiff who is going nowhere fast.

    Lloyd 81 (24%)
    Moreira 81 (23%)
    Pike 61 (27%)
    Purton 46 (16%)
    Nash 24(14%)
    Clipperton 23(9%)

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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,258 posts
    My man Clipperton. What a champ

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  • OffthebitOffthebit    602 posts
    edited February 2017
    What has gone wrong with my favourite west aussie jockey the pontiff? looking back at the last October update he was on 17 wins and Moreira was 29. Since then Moreira has racked up 54 winners to the pontiffs ONE!!! I know he had a decent suspension and took a little bit of time out but 54-1 in that period of time is mind boggling. Its no wonder Kramer has taken him off the scoreboard, it was getting rather embarrassing for the great man.
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  • tonytony    2,373 posts
    Harvey 34 outs since last win
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  • OffthebitOffthebit    602 posts
    Make that 35 :-O
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Lloyd 83 (24%)
    Moreira 81 (23%)
    Pike 61 (27%)
    Purton 46 (16%)
    Nash 24(14%)
    Clipperton 23(9%)
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Trebles for both Moreira & Nash tonight

    Moreira 84(23%)
    Lloyd 83 (24%)
    Pike 61 (27%)
    Purton 47 (16%)
    Nash 27(15%)
    Clipperton 23(9%)
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  • spinkingspinking    3,748 posts
    Guess who just got to the top of your list Kramer

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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts

    spinking said:

    Guess who just got to the top of your list Kramer

    He looks like a pork chop with that haircut.
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  • spinkingspinking    3,748 posts
    Who cares what he looks like could look like the whole pig as far as I am concerned. makes no difference to the fact he can sit on
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    edited February 2017
    Hype aside there's not that much between Joao and Zac and I wouldn't have thought that before this season. If they could both ride at the same weight there wouldn't be much between them. The haircut(he's 32 btw) probably says a lot about where his head is at.
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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    edited February 2017
    Moreira on target to beat or go close to his previous HK record.

    Damien Lane on target for his rides to earn $10m (previous best $6.6m).

    Surely there are worse jockeys to bag (on a weekly basis).
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Statistics can say whatever you want them to. Russell Westbrook is averaging a triple double in the NBA this season and he's on target to finish the season with those stats. Yet he's only achieved the feat in about half of the games he's played. So as far as Lane's stats are concerned, are they puffed out by a few black type wins? The criticism I made was about him getting beaten on favs from powerful stables like Darren Weir. That's not opinion, it's fact. Don't like it, don't read it.
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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    "Beaten on tote Favorites" is a flawed way to judge a jockeys ability.

    Probably why you can`t back a winner ridden by Lane.
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    But he does get beaten on a lot of short priced favs. You use prizemoney as evidence that Dane is having a stellar year. You know his mounts earn money for 2nd down to as far as 10th, too. You're not going to give me alternative facts are you? 
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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    therealkramer said:

    But he does get beaten on a lot of short priced favs.

    And you keep backing them, not real smart.
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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    edited February 2017
    therealkramer said:

    You use prizemoney as evidence that Dane is having a stellar year. You know his mounts earn money for 2nd down to as far as 10th, too. You're not going to give me alternative facts are you? 

    Lane 2016/17

    Most wins per season, likely.

    Highest prize money per season, definite.

    10 Group or Listed wins, best season already.

    Think hes going OK.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited February 2017
    Lane first caught my attention many years ago at a Bunbury meeting run on Melbourne Cup day not sure who won the Cup that year..but do remember Lane riding about 5 winners at Bunbury. Was a fantastic exhibition.

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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    edited February 2017
    D.Lane

    Most Profitable - Trainer

    Win
    Win%
    Place
    Place%
    Rides
    PM
    Profit
    POT
    DARREN WEIR2027%1925%75$2,326,09560680.8%

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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    edited February 2017
    Fastmoney said:


    therealkramer said:

    But he does get beaten on a lot of short priced favs.

    And you keep backing them, not real smart.
    Do I? The last two I've backed were for a win and a loss. I tend to steer clear of him. In any case, there's a thread about Lane already and this isn't it. 

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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    edited February 2017

    Lloyd 84 (24%)
    Moreira 84(23%)
    Pike 61 (27%)
    Purton 47 (16%)
    Nash 27(15%)
    Clipperton 23(9%)
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts

    Moreira 87(23%)
    Lloyd 84 (24%)
    Pike 61 (27%)
    Purton 48 (16%)
    Nash 28(15%)
    Clipperton 23(9%)
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Moreira 87(23%)
    Lloyd 86(24%)
    Pike 61(27%)
    Purton 48 (16%)
    Nash 28(15%)
    Clipperton 23(9%)
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